2013 Play-In: Thomas Tallis vs. John Merbecke

The road to the 2013 Golden Halo continues on this All Saints’ Day with our second of four Play-In matches (during August’s General Convention in Indianapolis you’ll recall Gregory the Great trounced Gregory of Nyssa to make it into the bracket). This battle pits two 16th century musicians against one another in the form of Thomas Tallis and John Merbecke.

The polls will be open from 8:00 am on All Saints’ Day until 8:00 am on All Souls’ Day (that’s tomorrow in case you don’t speak Liturgical Calendar). Only one will live on in harmony as the other is cast into the outer dissonance. The winner will take on Janani Luwum in the First Round — but not until sometime in early Lent.

Today’s Celebrity Bloggers are Lent Madness veteran Penny Nash (Merbecke) and Laurie Brock (Tallis). Laurie is making her Celebrity Blogger debut (please send her congratulatory notes by telegram or morse code as this is one of the biggest days of her entire life).

And if you haven’t already done so, be sure to “like” the Lent Madness Facebook page. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have 2,000 likes by Lent (less than a hundred to go!).

Thomas Tallis

1.  Thomas Tallis is considered the father of English Church music since the Reformation. Apparently the spot for pre-Reformation church music father is still open, but Tallis has the post-Reformation spot. Take that, Merbecke.

 2.  Tallis wrote the quite cleverly titled Tallis Canon, allowing Episcopalians to sing something besides, “Row, Row, Row Your Boat” in a round.

 3. We don’t know when he was born, we don’t know if he did or didn’t sing with the Chapel Royal of St. James Boys Choir, we have no idea what he really looked like, and we really don’t know how to spell his last name — the one copy of his signature we have shows Tallys. Yet he’s still up for Episcopal sainthood. He’s awesome enough to be a saint, even if he completely failed the background check.

 4.  His talent and political maneuvering brought him to the Chapel Royal, which served as the personal choir for the British monarch. Yep, you read that right. The kings and queens of England have their very own personal choir to sing at their command, sort of like the final 10 of American Idol, and Tallis — or Tallys — was awesome enough to be a part of this group.   

 5. Tallis taught, composed, and performed for Henry VIII, Edward I, Mary, and Elizabeth I and their courts and managed not to get himself executed.  Few musicians past or present have the ability to compose and perform in the style that suited the ever-changing tastes of monarchs, but Tallis did, and we all know the taste and styles of the Tudor monarchs varied drastically. Really drastically. Like beheaded or burned at the stake drastically.     

 6.  Tallis and his business partner William Byrd held the Crown Patent for the printing of music and lined music paper for twenty-one years. If you wanted to print music or get paper to write down your compositions in Tudor England, guess who you had to shmooze? Yep, Thomas Tallis. 

 7. Tallis’ most well-known compositions, Spem in Alium, a sacred motet expressing humanity’s eternal hope in God, is featured on the soundtrack of Fifty Shades of Grey.

 8.  Yes, you read that right. How could you not want this guy who survived four high-strung monarchs; the liturgical music swing from Roman Catholic to English Protestant back to Roman Catholic then finally to Anglicanism; and is still hip and cool enough to be a featured composer in one of the best-selling books of this year? (okay, yes, I KNOW what the book is about). 

9.  Being one of the greatest English composers didn’t matter to laborers at St. Alfege Church, where he was buried. They discarded his remains.  Oops.  Doesn’t that make you want to vote for him out of pity?  

10.  How could you not vote for a guy who composed this: 

Laurie Brock

 John Merbecke

10. He was asked by Thomas Cranmer to write service music for the 1549 (i.e., the first) Book of Common Prayer, insisting that it be singable and that every syllable should have only one note. The music was to encourage the people to participate fully in the service. Merbecke’s work was called The Booke of Common Praier Noted (i.e., set to music), is considered the “foundation of solemn musical service of the Church of England,” and is still in print.

9.  Although the use of service music fell away by the time of Queen Elizabeth, Merbecke’s service music, like many other wonderful aids to the beauty and wonder of the liturgy (such as candles, incense, and vestments, not to mention holiness and a zeal for mission) was rediscovered during the Oxford Movement and is still used in Anglican and Episcopal churches today.

8.  He was a double agent! He lived a super secret double life during the time of Henry VIII because of his increasing protestant sympathies even while he was serving as organist at the King’s Royal Chapel and Henry just wanted the Church to be the Church IN England, not a separate and reformed Church OF England.

7.  He was almost martyred when this secret double life was revealed. He was charged with heresy, on account of possessing the writings of John Calvin and for his work at writing an English Bible Concordance, and condemned to death. He was, however, saved from being burned at the stake by Bishop Stephen Gardiner, that same bishop so hated by Thomas Cromwell for his Roman sympathies in Hilary Mantel’s Booker Prize-winning novels Wolf Hall and Bring Up the Bodies.

6.  Unlike some other musicians of the day *cough* Thomas Tallis *cough*, Merbecke was not only a musician but a theological writer. His Bible Concordance, the first of its kind in the English, and one of the causes of his arrest, was published in 1550.

5.  New studies of Merbecke find that he was not only (or simply) a copyist and composer but also a Renaissance humanist whose music was “an Anglican epitome of the Erasmian synthesis of eloquence, theology, and music.”

4.  Thus, Merbecke’s life was spared because he was a “mere musician.” But in fact, his work was about spreading the new Reformed ideas throughout the Church of England in concert with Cranmer. Who doesn’t love such a delicious irony?

3.  A great choir was named after him. The Merbecke Choir for men and women sings in the Southwark Cathedral in London and is directed by a Huw Morgan. The choir has pictures of itself with Desmond Tutu and Rowan Williams on its website, proving that they are a Big Deal in the Anglican world. And if the choir is a Big Deal, then so should be Merbecke, no?

2.  Merbecke’s heresy trial was held in an area of the Southwark Cathedral (hence the whole choir-named-after-him thing) that is known as the Retrochoir. It is Very Fashionable for a Saint to be Retro.

1.  We all know that God is Mystery. But so is Marbecke! He may have been born in 1510 or perhaps 1505 or 1512; he may have died in 1585, but nobody knows, perhaps because his name is variously spelled Marbeck, Merbecke, and Merbeck. Not only that, but the Wikipedia entry on John Merbecke is described as having unclear sources and insufficient online citations to be reliable. Anyone who can outwit Wikipedia deserves a shot at the big leagues that is the Lent Madness bracket.

Penny Nash

Vote! (perhaps early, but not often — the Supreme Executive Committee is watching)

Thomas Tallis vs. John Merbecke

  • Thomas Tallis (62%, 361 Votes)
  • John Merbecke (38%, 225 Votes)

Total Voters: 586

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67 Comments to "2013 Play-In: Thomas Tallis vs. John Merbecke"

  1. Mary Lou's Gravatar Mary Lou
    November 1, 2012 - 8:15 am | Permalink

    Tough choice, but Thomas won my vote in the end. (Maybe it was partly pitty…lol) Excellent job, Laurie!

    • Laurie's Gravatar Laurie
      November 1, 2012 - 9:50 pm | Permalink

      Thank you, Mary Lou!!

  2. Mary's Gravatar Mary
    November 1, 2012 - 8:37 am | Permalink

    Tallis Canon!!! My favorite.

  3. Ann's Gravatar Ann
    November 1, 2012 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    Maybe the deck was stacked (you wouldn’t do that, would you?), but it’s hard to vote for a short, fairly straightforward organ solo over a sumptuous symphony of soaring sound [polyphonic]. So Tallis wins for me, even though he’s portrayed as a wimpish figure in desperate need of shampoo in the historically hysterical and widely watched–by me too–HBO series, “The Tudors.”

  4. Marguerite's Gravatar Marguerite
    November 1, 2012 - 8:56 am | Permalink

    Wow! Great job, celebrity bloggers. How you will ever maintain this level of research-not to mention impassioned advocacy – throughout the turbulent days of Lent, I can’t imagine. Oh well, good luck to anyone trying to top today’s efforts.

    I do seem to recall a minor reference to Tallis in one of Madeline L’Engle’s books. Can anyone substantiate?

    Must ponder a while to decide my vote.

    • Ginny Rodriguez's Gravatar Ginny Rodriguez
      November 1, 2012 - 3:02 pm | Permalink

      Tallis is the name of Madeline L’Engle’s parish priest in real time & place.
      It was a surprise to Madeline when Fr. Tallis walked right into the novel she was writing. Fr. Tallis was his real time, real place self in the novel. I think the novel is A Wrinkle in Time, but don’t quote me !
      Madeline wrote, in one of her autobiographies, about Fr. Tallis’ unannounced appearance . (I think Fr. Tallis’ first name is Thomas. Of course, Thomas.)
      Perhaps someone will repair these vague references?

      • Rebecca's Gravatar Rebecca
        November 1, 2012 - 3:40 pm | Permalink

        If I am not mistaken, Fr. Tallis was also a professor at General Theological Seminary, back in the 70’s…

        • November 1, 2012 - 8:08 pm | Permalink

          I believe it was Thomas Talley who taught at General Seminary. Good try, though. This round is a really tough choice, as Merbecke is much less known than Tallis. I always vote for the underdog.

      • Mary Kaye's Gravatar Mary Kaye
        November 1, 2012 - 6:41 pm | Permalink

        Not A Wrinkle in Time, but the one that has water in the title, I think.

    • Ginny Rodriguez's Gravatar Ginny Rodriguez
      November 1, 2012 - 4:24 pm | Permalink

      I just learned from Goggle: Canon Tallis first appeared in The Arm of the Starfish (1965); he also appeared in The Young Unicorns (1968), Dragon in the Waters (1976) and Certain Women (1992).
      The real name of “Canon Tallis’ was Canon Edward Nason West. Canon West was Madeline L’Engle’s spiritual adviser at St. John the Divine in NYC. He died in 1990. Madeline wrote about Canon West walking into her novel in Crosswicks Journals: A Circle of Quiet. : See Wikipedia. (or read the books. again.)

  5. Scott Elliott's Gravatar Scott Elliott
    November 1, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    L’Engle? Can you Tallis the answer?

  6. RoodRunner's Gravatar RoodRunner
    November 1, 2012 - 9:02 am | Permalink

    My Protestant sympathies notwithstanding, nor my affection for the Merbeck service (it was, after all, the “FIRST Communion Service” in the 1940 Hymnal), my vote has to go to Tallis for his vast repertoire of lush choral music. If the vote were even close, Vaughan Williams’ “Fantasia on a Theme of Thomas Tallis” would be the ultimate tiebreaker.

    • Jennifer's Gravatar Jennifer
      November 1, 2012 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

      ooh yah. Good one.

  7. Gillian B's Gravatar Gillian B
    November 1, 2012 - 9:07 am | Permalink

    Hi Marguerite,
    Madeleine L’Engle referred to Tallis several times in The Young Unicorns, one of my favorites–set around the Cathedral of St. John the Divine. I had to vote for Tallis, no doubt influenced by my early and often reading of The Young Unicorns.

  8. Christina O'Hara's Gravatar Christina O'Hara
    November 1, 2012 - 9:08 am | Permalink

    Congratulations, Laurie! You had me at “How could you not…”

  9. Mary-Elise Haug's Gravatar Mary-Elise Haug
    November 1, 2012 - 9:14 am | Permalink

    Awesome write-ups. I’m going to have ponder my vote for a bit.

  10. November 1, 2012 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    Going for the ‘underdog’ and impressed by Merbecke’s aim to produce music singable by all.

  11. Toni's Gravatar Toni
    November 1, 2012 - 9:31 am | Permalink

    Great write ups. I’m impressed by your research – both of you. I love Tallis/Tallys but have to go with the underdog and vote for Marbecke

  12. Amelia Hagen's Gravatar Amelia Hagen
    November 1, 2012 - 9:37 am | Permalink

    Both are worthy, but my musical heart is with Tallis.

  13. Barbara A. Cadwell's Gravatar Barbara A. Cadwell
    November 1, 2012 - 9:38 am | Permalink

    I brought in a ringer, a friend with a PhD in music who teaches at a major university, who told me to vote for Tallis. So, on the theory that ” you don’t buy a dog and bark yourself” ( one of my Grandmother’s favorite sayings, that us what I am doing.

  14. Kelly Donovan's Gravatar Kelly Donovan
    November 1, 2012 - 9:52 am | Permalink

    Terrific write-ups! A secret agent, a paper monopoly, heresies, threatened executions and music to boot! Most worthy are both, but I cast my vote for Tallis~

  15. Heidi Shott's Gravatar Heidi Shott
    November 1, 2012 - 10:22 am | Permalink

    I figured I would go with Tallis but Merbecke won me over with his well-roundedness and the intrigue factor. And Tallis – The Robber Baron of musical notation paper? Terrific top ten lists, fellow CBs. Well played.

  16. November 1, 2012 - 10:23 am | Permalink

    Two videos I did for this:

    For Tomas Tallis:

    For John Merbecke:

    • Sarah's Gravatar Sarah
      November 1, 2012 - 12:48 pm | Permalink

      Great stuff!!

  17. Margaret Smist's Gravatar Margaret Smist
    November 1, 2012 - 10:32 am | Permalink

    recognized Tallis’ name so that was good enough for me!

  18. Tarheel's Gravatar Tarheel
    November 1, 2012 - 10:41 am | Permalink

    So many elections , so little time. Merbecke has my vote.

  19. Gary Goldacker's Gravatar Gary Goldacker
    November 1, 2012 - 10:43 am | Permalink

    Penny won me over to Merbecke, however, you spell it!

  20. November 1, 2012 - 11:00 am | Permalink

    The canon by Tallis (or Tallys) is beautiful! As of the past year Tallis has become a household name to those who have read (gulp!) 50 Shades of Grey. Despite that notoriety, he composed music that is balm for our souls.

  21. Susan Hedges's Gravatar Susan Hedges
    November 1, 2012 - 11:18 am | Permalink

    It’s obvious by the vote that people are still influenced by ‘flashy’ music. Merbecke’s music is much more accessible to the ‘ordinary’ singer in the congregation. Besides we Episcopalians sing Merbecke’s service music to this day. Had to vote for Merbecke.

  22. Anne Wrider's Gravatar Anne Wrider
    November 1, 2012 - 11:38 am | Permalink

    Merbecke is a sweetie, but “Spem in Alium” is just one of the most amazing pieces ever written. Had to go with Tallis!

  23. Joe Stroud's Gravatar Joe Stroud
    November 1, 2012 - 11:41 am | Permalink

    What Heidi Shott said. . . (except for the “fellow CB” part!). Love Tallys’ music, but “double agent”. . . “mere musician” . . .”Erasmian”? C’mon Merbeckians!!

  24. November 1, 2012 - 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Tough choice! I have a Tallis Scholars CD; I’m currently reading ‘Wolf Hall.’ What a dilemma. I had to go with Tallis, tho. You had me at the 50 Shades of Gray connection,allthough I only read to page 100 and never got to the part about Tallis. Bad writing, but great composer.

  25. Alice Roerig's Gravatar Alice Roerig
    November 1, 2012 - 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Tallis – I just loved the write-up!!

  26. Patsy White's Gravatar Patsy White
    November 1, 2012 - 12:18 pm | Permalink

    What fun to have a chance to vote on All Saints for one of two fine musicians. I’m so glad Lent Madness is being spread out through the year lest we languish from LM withdrawal.

  27. Marguerite's Gravatar Marguerite
    November 1, 2012 - 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Many thanks to Gillian B. The Young Unicorns. Now I remember. There was a character named Canon Tallis.. Haha. Of course, L’Engle was always v. big on church lore.

  28. Sarah's Gravatar Sarah
    November 1, 2012 - 12:50 pm | Permalink

    TO Maple Anglican:
    great stuff.

  29. Alec Clement's Gravatar Alec Clement
    November 1, 2012 - 12:57 pm | Permalink

    I am perplexed–who set in motion this Merbecke (SP) vs Tallis (SP) battle. As a perpetual choir boy and in the Anglican tradition it seems to me to give William Byrd short shrift or put him in the back row, so to speak, offers the opportunity for a good fight.–and what about Orlando Gibbons ? or for that matter a number of others who help to illuminate the mysteries of our faith.
    If I had to vote I suppose I would vote for Tallis but our choral literature is filled with others that I love much more.
    Perhaps we need a Lenten madness that considers all our composers for possible sainthood.

  30. Dennis Coughlin's Gravatar Dennis Coughlin
    November 1, 2012 - 1:41 pm | Permalink

    I was going to vote by listening to the music videos, but playing them both at the same time gave me no clear winner and neither featured liturgical dance. What to do?

  31. Diane's Gravatar Diane
    November 1, 2012 - 2:16 pm | Permalink

    I need to ponder my choice. Thought I was going to vote for Tallis – mostly because of the L’Engle connection (Canon Tallis is a major character in several of her novels – and I think it was the Austin family in her novels that used the Tallis Canon to call to each other.) However the Merbeck blog is compelling.

  32. Walter Knowles's Gravatar Walter Knowles
    November 1, 2012 - 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately, just crediting Merbecke with the BCP noted is to sell him short. Though little of his Latin Church music remains, his Domine Ihesu Christe and Missa per Arma Iustitie are clearly a match for Tallis’ or Byrd’s music of the pre-Edward period. And then Tallis’ “Spem in Alium” is really just a ripoff of Alesandro Striggio’s Missa sopra Ecco sì beato giorno (which ends with a 60-part Agnus Dei!).

    But there is something more: Tallis (much as I love his music) should be disqualified. He doesn’t belong in a competition for Anglican saints. He was a recusant–someone who had the choice to be part of our life and chose to cast his lot with with the Spaniards and Italians who tried to destroy the Anglican Church (and England, for that matter), while still taking Good Queen Bess’s protection and money. I thus appeal to the SEC to step in and declare a forfeit in favor of John Merbecke!

    • Jennifer's Gravatar Jennifer
      November 1, 2012 - 6:56 pm | Permalink

      Zut alors! Another double agent! Helas, I was seduced by his musical charms…Je regrette plenty, now.

  33. Jane Knight's Gravatar Jane Knight
    November 1, 2012 - 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Tallis of course! He was organist at St. Alfege’s in Greenwich, England, a parish which has become our church “home away from home” whenever we travel to the UK. The organ keyboard he played is preserved at the back of the nave.

  34. November 1, 2012 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Purely for the music! They BOTH led interesting lives in interesting times. But what Anglican doesn’t love Tallis!

  35. November 1, 2012 - 3:45 pm | Permalink

    My young clan voted for Merbeck. I think my eight year old stopped listening after “double agent.” We all enjoyed listening to the music, though.

  36. November 1, 2012 - 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Tallis, for me. Congratulations, Laurie, on your growing careers as an author and a blogger, to say nothing of that of rector. Songwriting next? With your law degree in your cassock pocket and the emerging church, you will never be without challenges.

    • Laurie's Gravatar Laurie
      November 1, 2012 - 9:55 pm | Permalink

      Thanks, John! I hope I never have to use that law degree in the cassock pocket.

  37. Carol Buckalew's Gravatar Carol Buckalew
    November 1, 2012 - 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Great write ups & a tough choice. I was going to go with Tallis just because of his canon, but was won over to Merbecke by the write up.
    Lent is going to be radically mad this year if this is any indication. :)

  38. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    November 1, 2012 - 4:26 pm | Permalink

    It is just NOT FAIR to have to make this kind of choice. Between two musicians. Of the same period. Who were both clearly extraordinary people.

    But I voted for Tallis. And I’ve sung Spem in Alium (Choir 5, Sop 2).

  39. Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
    November 1, 2012 - 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Ooops—no edit button. Must be just plain soprano.

  40. CynDiva's Gravatar CynDiva
    November 1, 2012 - 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I can’t stand that “every syllable should have only one note” in Merbecke. Thomas you’re my musical hero!!!!

  41. Joe Pennington's Gravatar Joe Pennington
    November 1, 2012 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Laurie almost swayed me, but Merbecke was the first Service Music that I was allowed to sing in English. Thank you, John Merbecke, for this personal reformation.

  42. Deacon Lisa's Gravatar Deacon Lisa
    November 1, 2012 - 8:16 pm | Permalink

    My vote goes to Merbeck. Although this was difficult. Any artist that can catch the attention of those Monarchs in a positive way, had to be extraordinary and talented or….. But I will always vote for someone who tries to make the music and word of sacred text usable for the commoner.

  43. November 1, 2012 - 9:24 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pswx5dqaUxU

    Going with the underdog, Merbecke.

  44. kathleen's Gravatar kathleen
    November 1, 2012 - 10:36 pm | Permalink

    slightly off topic, but wasnt general convention in July?

    Tallis all the way!!

  45. Rilla+'s Gravatar Rilla+
    November 1, 2012 - 10:49 pm | Permalink

    Gotta go with Tallis. Anyone who could survive the evolution of the English Church from Roman to English Protestant to Roman to Anglican, through Henry and all three of his kids, really deserves it.

  46. Marsha Wade's Gravatar Marsha Wade
    November 1, 2012 - 11:13 pm | Permalink

    If he’s good enough for Laurie, he’s good enough for me!!

  47. Elizabeth Smith's Gravatar Elizabeth Smith
    November 1, 2012 - 11:30 pm | Permalink

    While travelling among the Orthodox in Greek (and they don’t think it’s real liturgy unless you can chant it) I got points for Anglicanism by singing Merbecke’s Nicene Creed. He gets my vote.

  48. Ann Tillman's Gravatar Ann Tillman
    November 2, 2012 - 2:03 am | Permalink

    One of these things is not like the others! Under Tallis, point 5, shouldn’t that be Edward VI? Edward I lived well before the others…

    • Laurie's Gravatar Laurie
      November 2, 2012 - 9:49 am | Permalink

      Thanks for catching the typo that the Lent Madness High Priests missed!

  49. Linda's Gravatar Linda
    November 2, 2012 - 5:44 am | Permalink

    Double agent did it for me.

  50. November 2, 2012 - 5:49 am | Permalink

    As a singer, I voted for Tallis. He loved all the voice parts.

  51. Cindy Scott's Gravatar Cindy Scott
    November 2, 2012 - 5:55 am | Permalink

    Have to go with the newbie blogger–great write-up, Laurie–my vote goes to Tallis.

  52. Diane Carroll's Gravatar Diane Carroll
    November 2, 2012 - 9:57 am | Permalink

    was going to vote for Merebecke but there was not way to vote, i just got the totals of those who had already voted. i loved the Tallis piece and listening to other Tallis pieces, but Merebecke just seemed to want my vote more.

  53. M.Kemp's Gravatar M.Kemp
    November 2, 2012 - 11:52 am | Permalink

    Where can I go to vote on this ?

    • Jennifer's Gravatar Jennifer
      November 3, 2012 - 2:46 pm | Permalink

      Too late now but next time look for a “vote now” at the end of the write ups, before comments. After you vote it gives you the running total. Once polls have closed, that’s also where you find the result. Next time! ; )

  54. Aleathia (Dolores) Nicholson's Gravatar Aleathia (Dolores) Nicholson
    November 3, 2012 - 1:18 am | Permalink

    Well, they’re already running amok and it’s not even 2013 yet. Plus that, I forgot to vote.

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