Raymond Nonnatus vs. Amelia Bloomer

With the final battle of Elate Eight week, we will head into the weekend with the full slate of the Faithful Four. After yesterday’s victory by Franz Jägerstätter over Mecthild of Magdeburg 67% to 33%, three of the four tickets have been punched. Franz will join Stephen and Florence Nightingale while we await the outcome of today’s battle between Raymond Nonnatus and Amelia Bloomer.

To make it this far, Raymond defeated John of Nepomuk and Moses the Black while Amelia made it past Philipp Melanchthon and Fanny Crosby.

Are you ready for the final three days of the 2017 Saintly Smackdown? Here’s how it will go: On Monday Stephen will face Franz. On Tuesday today’s winner will face Florence Nightingale. On Spy Wednesday, we’ll send one of the two remaining saints to (additional) eternal glory by awarding the coveted Golden Halo. There’s a lot more Madness to come but that’s how next week will go.

In the meantime, vote! And spend the weekend preparing for next week’s final flourish.

Raymond Nonnatus

To no one’s surprise, Raymond Nonnatus is a kitsch-heavy saint.  

There are, of course, the assortment of kitschy items dedicated to Raymond himself. There’s a catchy album of music, if you would care to calmly meditate upon getting your mouth drilled with a red-hot poker. Unfortunately, from the samples provided, it sounds like a head-on collision between Kenny G and that NPR show that comes on at 2:00 am and only plays music about space.  

There is also this helpful magnet of a St. Raymond icon, that you could stick to your office filing cabinet, to remind you to cut down on malicious office gossip. To further this endeavor, you might also want to sprinkle around some St. Raymond oil. The seller helpfully indicates that the oil does not smell like the name — so if you were concerned that it would have Eau de Really Dead Guy, worry not! (No word on what it DOES smell like though. If one of the Lent Madness Commentariat would like to purchase it and report back, please do!) 

On a more serious side, the Library of Seville, in Spain, has a 17th century manuscript detailing the feats and miracles of St. Raymond that is available for free download. If your Spanish is good, you can grab it for free, and read all about the testimony of the cardinals about the holy saint!  

We cannot forget that St. Raymond also has his very own TV show. ‘Call the Midwife’ is also a font of lovely tie-in kitsch, from DVDs and cardigans to felt mice and color-coordinated yarn.  If you have always wanted to be a do-gooder in the slums of pre-welfare state Britain, you can! Or at least look like it.  

 

 

 

 

 

However, perhaps you have more pressing concerns in the present. Perhaps you are turning to St. Raymond in an effort to stop slander against yourself or a loved one, and what you require is a lock. But not just any lock — no! What you need is a special padlock to empower your particular prayer of intercession in this unique case. In such a situation, may I interest you in one of the many antique padlocks the internet helpfully has on offer? Such as this magnificent example, which was made in 1904 with the state seal of Missouri on it to honor the World’s Fair! With this, I imagine you could stop the ENTIRE STATE OF MISSOURI from talking about you.

“But Megan!” you protest, “The person who is slandering me is known unto me! He is a retired professional baseball player and I must specifically target my prayers accordingly! What then can I do?”

Fear not, brave friend. There is also hope for you. For in the depths of their wisdom, Major League Baseball released a series of commemorative padlocks with the images of pro ball players upon them! Yes! And so you may stop the trash talking of Andy Horner, outfielder for the St. Louis Cardinals with a specific padlock, through the wonders of modern late-stage capitalism.  

Megan Castellan

Amelia Bloomer

Amelia Bloomer — reformer, suffragette, temperance leader, and Christian. She’s a woman of substance who did not let the limitations placed on her by others define her.

So, as you’re challenging expectations and limitations and marching for justice, don’t forget your Amelia Bloomer tote bag, complete with images of not one but TWO pair of bloomers drying on the line. Comfortable clothing and environmentally friendly, all in one!

After a long day of marching for the dignity of every human being, relax by having your beverage of choice poured from your very own Amelia Bloomer flask. Of course, because Amelia found alcohol completely immoral, so much so that she wouldn’t dine in a home that had spirits within, you’d only put appropriate beverages in the flask.

 

Amelia’s story is quite amazing, so if you need to brush up on her adventures, you can read all about it at Lent Madness or this nifty children’s book.

Let’s not forget that for all Amelia did for women’s rights, she is most commonly remembered not for her intelligent and witty writings in the first newspaper published by and for women, nor for the dedicated work she did to gain women the right to vote and run for public office, nor for the way she challenged the church hierarchy to face their gender bias, but for a pair of pants, bloomers, as they came to be called.

We are fortunate that women and men still benefit from her faithful work, and we are fortunate we still benefit from her savvy fashion sense. Don’t you want your very own modern interpretation of Amelia Bloomer’s bloomers? 

Laurie Brock

Raymond Nonnatus vs. Amelia Bloomer

  • Amelia Bloomer (59%, 3,386 Votes)
  • Raymond Nonnatus (41%, 2,313 Votes)

Total Voters: 5,699

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176 Comments to "Raymond Nonnatus vs. Amelia Bloomer"

  1. Scott Madison's Gravatar Scott Madison
    April 7, 2017 - 8:07 am | Permalink

    Going with Amelia, I think she may be my pick to win the whole thing!

    • Debbie Hunter's Gravatar Debbie Hunter
      April 7, 2017 - 8:56 am | Permalink

      She IS my pick for the Golden Halo!!

      • sue's Gravatar sue
        April 11, 2017 - 6:06 am | Permalink

        mine too

    • Rhonda's Gravatar Rhonda
      April 7, 2017 - 12:22 pm | Permalink

      Stephen is my pick for the halo.
      But cudos to Madams Brock and Castellan! Thank you! For the foy and laughter❤

  2. Diana's Gravatar Diana
    April 7, 2017 - 8:08 am | Permalink

    For Raymond Nonnatus and Amelia Bloomer
    Tune: Diademata. Hymnal ’82, 494 Crown him with many crowns

    Praise to our wondrous God
    Whose love will never end.
    Praise for the grace that flows through all;
    For us to share again.
    For saints whose lives still sing
    God’s glory in our world,
    That we may give the love received
    As awe-filled hearts unfurl.

    Praise for a saint whose life
    Was given to freeing slaves.
    Who gave himself for others’ needs
    And suffered for his faith.
    Patron of silence, he
    Has much to give today.
    Teach us to listen silently
    So our lives speak your grace.

    Praise for a woman strong
    Who gives a fearless voice
    To women who are treated as
    A lesser, foolish race.
    Her true abiding faith
    Gave her the courage to
    Write, dress and speak as one beloved
    By God who is all Truth.

    Praises again we sing
    For nurturing and care
    Giv’n through the saints before, and now
    It’s our great gift to share.
    For silence and for voice
    To hear, proclaim to all
    The freedom given in holy love;
    Our hope in face of fear.

    • Ann Garvin's Gravatar Ann Garvin
      April 7, 2017 - 8:38 am | Permalink

      Love it!

    • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
      April 7, 2017 - 9:25 am | Permalink

      Thanks once again. Facing a day of noise today, so it helps to remember the Patron of Silence!

    • April 7, 2017 - 10:30 am | Permalink

      Hi Diana
      My wife and I would be delighted to visit the Community and meet you! We’re planning a visit sometime in June. I will contact you through the Mother House and let you know when we will be coming.
      Go Raymond!

      • Diana's Gravatar Diana
        April 7, 2017 - 10:57 am | Permalink

        Great, Harlie. I look forward to it. We will be in our annual long retreat from June 12 -18. Other than that, I don’t know what is scheduled, but I should be relatively free to get to know you both. If you want to private message me on Facebook and give me your e-mail, we can be in better contact.

        • April 7, 2017 - 12:23 pm | Permalink

          My wife sent you a Friend request on Facebook (I think that’s the term. My wife is the Facebook enthusiast in the family!).

    • Adelaide Kent's Gravatar Adelaide Kent
      April 7, 2017 - 10:58 am | Permalink

      Diana
      Your poetry has replaced the hole in my heart left by Oliver’s disappearance!

      • Diana's Gravatar Diana
        April 7, 2017 - 1:08 pm | Permalink

        Adelaide,
        Someone named Oliver voted yesterday. I don’t know if it’s the same Oliver we’ve been concerned about. I miss him, too.

    • Kathleen's Gravatar Kathleen
      April 7, 2017 - 11:24 am | Permalink

      Thank you! I have enjoyed your contributions.

    • Barbara's Gravatar Barbara
      April 7, 2017 - 11:24 am | Permalink
    • Jane's Gravatar Jane
      April 7, 2017 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

      Well done! Enjoyed it a lot.

    • Mollie Douglas Turner+'s Gravatar Mollie Douglas Turner+
      April 7, 2017 - 1:13 pm | Permalink

      Another great one, Diana!

      Sadly, my vote for Nonnatus seems to be a losing one. But I did like the bloomers on display, Laurie.

      • Hugh Mitchell's Gravatar Hugh Mitchell
        April 7, 2017 - 2:34 pm | Permalink

        My vote for Neonates, who clearly has the more, and perhaps the better, kitsch of the two, also seems to be going for nonnaught.

    • Candace's Gravatar Candace
      April 7, 2017 - 2:17 pm | Permalink

      Thank you Diana! I sang this to my husband as we drove back from the gym. We vote together each day on the way to the gym!! One vote only, of course!
      Your hymns are amazing!!

    • David N.'s Gravatar David N.
      April 8, 2017 - 2:08 am | Permalink

      Another winner! Please publish!

    • David N.'s Gravatar David N.
      April 8, 2017 - 2:09 am | Permalink

      Another winner! Please publish, and let us know!

  3. Mike's Gravatar Mike
    April 7, 2017 - 8:09 am | Permalink

    The “Hammer Pants” won me over.

  4. Rev. Steve's Gravatar Rev. Steve
    April 7, 2017 - 8:13 am | Permalink

    For the first time this Lent Madness season, I really do not care who wins this match. Voted for Bloomer just because she beat Crosby who was one of my wishes to make the finals. But just like the other Madness by choices are already gone before the final four.

  5. Pete's Gravatar Pete
    April 7, 2017 - 8:14 am | Permalink

    I will never vote for a “temperance leader.” Voluntary abstinence is a virtue. Legal prohibitionism is immoral.

    • Robert's Gravatar Robert
      April 7, 2017 - 9:06 am | Permalink

      Excellent point.

    • Margaret's Gravatar Margaret
      April 7, 2017 - 9:47 am | Permalink

      Seemed like a good idea at the time though. As did women’s franchise and wearing pants. Thank you, Ms. Bloomer, for that! Go Amelia!

    • Ryan's Gravatar Ryan
      April 7, 2017 - 11:47 am | Permalink

      So, Pete, should we also make opiates (heroin, etc.), stimluants (speed, crack, etc.), etc. not subject to prohibition? Is it immoral that they are currently illegal?

    • James Oppenheimer's Gravatar James Oppenheimer
      April 7, 2017 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

      We look at temperance from the twenty-twenty vision afforded us after discovering the manifold reasons why prohibition does not work. This is patently unfair.

      Were it not for the efforts of the temperance leaders, there would not have been the push for women to get the vote. One has to ask, absent that push at that time, what would have gained the vote for women?? How long would women have to wait.

      We have recently had it rubbed forcefully into our noses how very much our country clings to the older ways, so it should be no surprise to consider the possibility that even today women might not have the vote. For those who say, “Surely not!” I just chuckle. With what we’ve seen of the true underbelly of America, I can confidently respond, “Wanna bet?”

      The temperance folks saw powerless, helpless women watching as their husbands gave in to hopeless despair and drank their wages at the nearest bar. They thought that abolishing drinking would solve the problem, and of course the smug, self righteous ones can say the plan did not work. Actually, by getting women the right to vote, it indirectly DID help those women by enfranchising them, a small step toward their emancipation from the tyranny of their men who were then answerable to no one. They saw an ill and at least tried to do something, and it was only in doing it that we found out decisively why it wasn’t such a great idea after all.
      Hindsight is always 20/20 and a little smug.

    • April 7, 2017 - 6:08 pm | Permalink

      The enduring results of prohibition which I see (not only in the US, but in other English-speaking countries) include:

      1. A binge-drinking culture that developed because a large number of people were given the false impression that there was very little middle ground between problem drinking and ideologically-driven abstinence even though (as early as the late 19th c.) Americans (at least those living in urban areas) had plenty of examples of responsible imbibers in their Italian-American, Jewish-American, and Greek-American neighbours.

      2. An attitude that views any safety-related legislation (seat belts, motorcycle helmets ….) as a “nanny state” intrusion on people’s liberties.

      3. An acceptance of organised crime as a “normal” part of society (given that they were the most reliable suppliers of liquor to the public during Prohibition).

      I voted for Ms. B. because of her involvement in the Women’s Suffrage movement, but I see her involvement in an abstinence-oriented temperance movement as problematic.

      And, by the way, I’m aware of plenty of examples of domestic violence committed by men who are teetotallers.

      • Gail Adams's Gravatar Gail Adams
        April 7, 2017 - 10:29 pm | Permalink

        That is why I could not vote for her.

  6. April 7, 2017 - 8:16 am | Permalink

    • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
      April 7, 2017 - 9:13 am | Permalink

      Terrific! My earworm for the day!

    • Andria's Gravatar Andria
      April 7, 2017 - 9:30 am | Permalink

      Thanks so much for taking the time to post that recording!

    • K8+'s Gravatar K8+
      April 7, 2017 - 12:54 pm | Permalink

      Great one, Cynthia!

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      April 7, 2017 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

      That is great! I’m doubly glad I voted for Amelia now. (And am going to look up the musical itself.)

    • Pat's Gravatar Pat
      April 7, 2017 - 9:22 pm | Permalink

      We could March to that

      • andrea's Gravatar andrea
        April 7, 2017 - 10:54 pm | Permalink

        Thank you, Cynthia.

  7. AltarGuild2017's Gravatar AltarGuild2017
    April 7, 2017 - 8:17 am | Permalink

    I was going to vote for A. Bloomer, then realized I would rather drink in public and hang my underwear away for public eyes. Yes, I know this is a silly reason, but it is KITCHY week. Besides you have to like a magnet that
    “you could stick to your office filing cabinet, to remind you to cut down on malicious office gossip.”

  8. Timothy Cole-French's Gravatar Timothy Cole-French
    April 7, 2017 - 8:18 am | Permalink

    Hey Christians? Where you at? ITS LENNNTTTT MADNESS! GET OUT AND VOTE EARLY!
    (I voted for Raymond btw)

  9. Claudia's Gravatar Claudia
    April 7, 2017 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    I like bloomers and have some really cute ones from April Cornell for sleeping. So, no choice!

  10. Treadwell Crown's Gravatar Treadwell Crown
    April 7, 2017 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    Had to go with Raymond for the overwhelming wave of kitsch; but I’ll say no more…

  11. Janene's Gravatar Janene
    April 7, 2017 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    I think the kitsch stuff is too much. Really disrespectful to those who went before us.
    Possibly Amelia would think the bloomers are funny but I don’t like kitsch.
    Mostly they would not have even understood why some think these things funny now and I have a pretty good sense of humor and I even swear.

    • Sue harris's Gravatar Sue harris
      April 7, 2017 - 8:25 am | Permalink

      I agree.

      • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
        April 7, 2017 - 1:53 pm | Permalink

        When it comes to liking kitsch, all can, some should, none must, but try to not be too much a #KitschKrank. 😉

    • Karen Howe's Gravatar Karen Howe
      April 7, 2017 - 3:35 pm | Permalink

      I really enjoy the kitsch, but do not consider it in my voting; I go back to the earlier posts to refresh my mind on what really matters.

  12. Sue harris's Gravatar Sue harris
    April 7, 2017 - 8:24 am | Permalink

    I thought this year was very disappointing. I wish that we could stick to actual saints instead of just good dead people. And I have almost without fail picked the loser.

    • Diana's Gravatar Diana
      April 7, 2017 - 8:41 am | Permalink

      Hi Sue. I’m curious about your post, about how you, personally, define actual saints. This is a conversation I’ve had a couple of times in groups, and I’d be interested in having you weigh in. Thanks.

    • Sue's Gravatar Sue
      April 7, 2017 - 8:58 am | Permalink

      Which ones are not a Saint?

    • Karen K's Gravatar Karen K
      April 7, 2017 - 8:58 am | Permalink

      Sue, I too have been disappointed with the results of the voting. It reminds of junior high school when people voted for something just to see if the absurd would win and they could have a good laugh. Either that or the voting is fixed and I don’t like that scenario either.

    • Robert's Gravatar Robert
      April 7, 2017 - 9:04 am | Permalink

      Good comment, Sue.

    • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
      April 7, 2017 - 9:35 am | Permalink

      Maybe I should put the padlock back on my lips this morning, but I hope that I might respectfully say that I really appreciate the addition of just good dead people to the ranks of the saints. It seems to make sainthood more accessible to the rest of us, and adds an interesting element to the whole Lent Madness adventure. I also love the kitsch and the humor, which still appears (to me at least) to respect the faith and courage of the person being considered.

      • Vicki's Gravatar Vicki
        April 7, 2017 - 10:55 am | Permalink

        Amen kesmarn!

      • Amanda's Gravatar Amanda
        April 7, 2017 - 11:23 am | Permalink

        Ditto, kesmarn…also, I personally am drawn to & sustained by expansion, inclusion, and levity. Also: Team Jaggerstatter 2017 ( though I think Flo might get the W.)

      • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
        April 7, 2017 - 11:57 am | Permalink

        There is a vetting process for candidates in LM. They must be recognized somewhere in the church catholic. Some are official Roman Catholic-approved Saints (Stephen, Raymond Nonnatus, Scholastica, Mechtild of Magdeburg, & both Augustines) while others (Amelia Bloomer, Florence Nightingale) are recognized by The Episcopal Church, and then Sarah is in the holy scriptures of both Christianity and Judaism.

        Some of us are still waiting for Saint Fred of the Neighborhood (who already has at least one Episcopal parish with a commemorative stained glass window in his memory and an icon [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8SmyywU0AAKkz1?format=jpg&name=large]) to be eligible for LM.

        • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
          April 7, 2017 - 11:57 am | Permalink
        • April 7, 2017 - 12:43 pm | Permalink

          I am also waiting for Saint Fred of the Neighborhood, recommended him last year and will do so again. He was such a tremendous force for good, and it was all based on a strong Christian faith. After his ordination in the Presbyterian church, he was told that his ministry was to be the continuation of his work with children’s broadcasting.

        • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
          April 7, 2017 - 1:11 pm | Permalink

          This icon is hanging in the office of a priest friend of mine.
          We may not live long enough to see it, but I’m quite sure Fred Rogers will someday be recognized in some future version of “Holy Women, Holy Men”.

    • Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
      April 7, 2017 - 10:19 am | Permalink

      I believe one of the qualifications is that the person has to be on a liturgical calendar. Amelia Bloomer is on the Episcopal calendar on July 20 along with Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Sojourner Truth, and Harriett Ross Tubman. Here is their Collect:

      O God, whose Spirit guideth us into all truth and maketh us free: Strengthen and sustain us as thou didst thy servants Elizabeth, Amelia, Sojourner, and Harriet. Give us vision and courage to stand against oppression and injustice and all that worketh against the glorious liberty to which thou callest all thy children; through Jesus Christ our Savior, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

    • James Oppenheimer's Gravatar James Oppenheimer
      April 7, 2017 - 2:27 pm | Permalink

      While there is a lot to what you say (“Hey, my person got voted off the island, and man, am I stewed!”), but I think we have to consider a few givens here. Like it or not, people are going to see their choices lose. Most votes are in the sixty to forty range, so there are forty per cent of each vote who feel robbed in some way. We all need to practice acceptance. I chose the right person, and so did a lot of others. Unfortunately, more folks who chose the right person chose the person I didn’t pick. But to EACH of us, we all picked the “right” person. The fly in the ointment is that more people picked the other person. We must find ways of accepting that.
      Also, another given is that we hear and learn about saints we never knew existed. What a wonderful way of broadening our vistas! Prior to the voting a couple years ago, I had not heard of Frances Perkins. Now I know that the New Deal was her idea (she put forward an outline of all the programs FDR eventually instituted as conditions, the acceptance of which were needed before she would accept the post of Secretary of Labor. FDR knew she wa the only person with the know how to get things done, and pretty much had to agree to it all.)
      I didn’t know about several others, and it is due to Lent Madness that my knowledge has been greatly expanded. It is a marvelous thing to learn of the many folks upon whose shoulders we are today standing.
      Yes, thanks to LM, I appreciate Newton’s comment very much.

      • April 7, 2017 - 4:08 pm | Permalink

        Very well put, James.
        What is Newton’s comment?

        • Pamela Payne's Gravatar Pamela Payne
          April 7, 2017 - 6:36 pm | Permalink

          “If I have been able to see clearly, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants.” (or very close thereto..doing this from memory!!)

          • Pamela Payne's Gravatar Pamela Payne
            April 7, 2017 - 6:42 pm | Permalink

            Oops, I think it should read “If I could see further,….”

          • April 7, 2017 - 7:09 pm | Permalink

            Newton came up with that phrase? Well, dang!
            Thanks for the enlightenment, Pamela!

  13. Beth's Gravatar Beth
    April 7, 2017 - 8:27 am | Permalink

    Amelia for the win all the way!

    • MR McKenney's Gravatar MR McKenney
      April 7, 2017 - 10:17 am | Permalink

      Had to go with Raymond – laughed out loud!

  14. Rilla Holmes's Gravatar Rilla Holmes
    April 7, 2017 - 8:29 am | Permalink

    Amelia all the way!

  15. April 7, 2017 - 8:30 am | Permalink

    Amelia today. She persevered. Oh, and Claudia: I too adore April Cornell, and may need to get some of those bloomers of which you speak!

  16. Mary's Gravatar Mary
    April 7, 2017 - 8:31 am | Permalink

    ..wondering how bloomers would pair with leggings?

  17. ChrisinNY's Gravatar ChrisinNY
    April 7, 2017 - 8:37 am | Permalink

    I love the kitsch posts. Goes along with one of our family rules, “If you can’t laugh, you aren’t doiong it right.” Amelia for the win!

  18. Ann Garvin's Gravatar Ann Garvin
    April 7, 2017 - 8:40 am | Permalink

    Voted for Amelia. Love the kitsch. Go away, #KitschKranks!

  19. Leamarie's Gravatar Leamarie
    April 7, 2017 - 8:40 am | Permalink

    I chose Nonotus over Amelia because of Call the Midwife, a show that demonstrates some genuine caring and concern for poor people and their health care, in an age where childbirth was still a scary thing. The nurse-midwives of that era were saints in their own right, flawed, perhaps, and very uman, but also loving and nurturing. If any part of that was due to Raymond’s example, I am for him!

    • Lindsay Graves's Gravatar Lindsay Graves
      April 7, 2017 - 10:14 am | Permalink

      I must agree with your choice of Nonotus. I too adore Call the Midwife….such a brave and faithful group of women carrying on the work of women’s health issues. I only wish that today’s advocates for fair and equal health might prevail.

    • April 7, 2017 - 10:40 am | Permalink

      Agreed!

  20. April 7, 2017 - 8:45 am | Permalink

    Finally, kitschy links! All future Kitsch round bloggers should follow Megan’s example. I want that Call the Midwife mouse. Thanks to Megan, I don’t have to painstakingly scour the internet to find it. As for the vote, I still stand by St. Raymond Nonnatus for his slave-freeing efforts at great cost (and of no benefit) to himself.

    Side Note: I read that book about Ms. Bloomer in my nannying days!

    • Emily's Gravatar Emily
      April 7, 2017 - 10:14 am | Permalink

      I too voted for Nonnatus. His actions were more saintly in my view. Amelia was terrifically important to improving the lives of women and children and I applaud her. In this matchup, however, I go with Nonnatus.

      • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
        April 7, 2017 - 3:55 pm | Permalink

        Every year on the occasion of my parish’s paternal feast (Trinity Sunday) the Bishop comes to do confirmations et cetera . . . and there is usually a Bishop’s Forum Q & A at 9 o’clock. This year I plan to ask just how one gets someone included in whatever it is Holy Women, Holy Men neé Lessor Feasts & Fasts has been renamed (Cloud of Witnesses?).

  21. Carol's Gravatar Carol
    April 7, 2017 - 8:46 am | Permalink

    As much as I Love the padlock thing…. My heart is with Amelia ……

  22. Ntathu's Gravatar Ntathu
    April 7, 2017 - 8:48 am | Permalink

    Amelia reminds us of the power of using our voices in the service of bringing into being a just society. She is an inspiration to journalists in our time. Bloomers freely dancing in the breeze is a nice image.

  23. Laura J. Schomberg's Gravatar Laura J. Schomberg
    April 7, 2017 - 8:51 am | Permalink

    Did not like the bloomers I had to wear in Gym class in Junior High. For that and at least one other very good reason , I will vote for Raymond.

  24. Bob P.'s Gravatar Bob P.
    April 7, 2017 - 8:54 am | Permalink

    Even the mention of St. Louis Cardinals makes me turn the other way.
    “Hey, Chicago, what do you say
    Cubs are gonna win today.”

    Oops. Here’s to Amelia.

    • M Kahn's Gravatar M Kahn
      April 7, 2017 - 10:54 am | Permalink

      Cubs 6, Cardinals 4 …….⚾️

      • Linda N's Gravatar Linda N
        April 7, 2017 - 2:07 pm | Permalink

        After an interesting incident with a ball stuck on Yadier Molina’s chest protector.

  25. Matthew of Nashville's Gravatar Matthew of Nashville
    April 7, 2017 - 8:55 am | Permalink

    A very admirable job by both of our celebrity bloggers today! Such a tough decision, but I am going with Raymond, in part because his faithfulness and bravery were more costly, and because his surname helps me feel good that I took three years of HS Latin.

  26. Peg S.'s Gravatar Peg S.
    April 7, 2017 - 8:56 am | Permalink

    I enjoy the kitsch round, but I respect the right of people to have their own personal sense of humor. It’s a gift from God, to be cherished. To me, the items in the kitsch round are laughable–not the saints they purport to honor. I giggle at the lemonade flask or the icon phone cover because they show how our love for these saints can go a bit overboard at times, or in some cases how silly humans endeavor to extricate a few bucks from the pockets of other silly humans. Not every joke in Lent Madness makes me laugh, not every match- up makes me cry, but taking part always teaches me and connects me to worthwhile people, writing and written about. Now, where can I get me a felt mousie in a nurse outfit to match my “Flo for the Halo” tote bag?

    • Susie's Gravatar Susie
      April 7, 2017 - 9:38 am | Permalink

      Well said & I love the humor & family quote “if you can’t laugh, you’re doing it wrong” So thanks SEC and thanks bloggers for your wit & humor–& thanks for the first thing in the morning laugh out loud,Megan!

    • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
      April 7, 2017 - 9:40 am | Permalink

      Love your comment.

  27. Yvonne -=^..^=-'s Gravatar Yvonne -=^..^=-
    April 7, 2017 - 9:04 am | Permalink

    Wearing my scandalous bloomers from April Cornell (dot com) whilst I vote for the lady.
    Happy Friday!

  28. April 7, 2017 - 9:06 am | Permalink

    I’m backing Amelia. We’ve already got Florence for the nurses, so let’s go with the woman who helped free the ordinary women from societal oppression!

  29. Sara Brave Heart's Gravatar Sara Brave Heart
    April 7, 2017 - 9:24 am | Permalink

    Next year let’s see some fresh candidates to vote for! I don’t mind if they are Saints or saints – just some fresh faces and stories!

  30. Hallie's Gravatar Hallie
    April 7, 2017 - 9:25 am | Permalink

    From the historian: Amelia’s bloomers were actually very full pants with bands at the ankles, which were worn under a just-below-the-knee dress. She would have called them “Turkish Drawers.” She favored them as “reform dress” and an attempt to free women from the restraining fashions of the day. When she (or any of the other early feminists who wore them) walked down the street in Bloomer Costume, dogs were set on her and eggs thrown–women shouldn’t wear the pants!

  31. Jennifer Seaver's Gravatar Jennifer Seaver
    April 7, 2017 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    In honor of all the daffodils in bloom in front of my house, I vote for Ms. Bloomer – a woman ahead of her times.

  32. Eric Adams's Gravatar Eric Adams
    April 7, 2017 - 9:30 am | Permalink

    I agree with Pete above when he stated that legal prohibition is immoral. The only thing it accomplished was to turn ordinary citizens into criminals while aiding and abetting the real criminals in organized crime to flourish and become wealthy. It’ll be a losing vote, but I’m going with Raymond.

    • Sarah Pope's Gravatar Sarah Pope
      April 7, 2017 - 10:20 am | Permalink

      And during Prohibition, poisoning people in the name of calling it an “incentive” not to drink was encouraged. Go, Raymond!

  33. Nelson F's Gravatar Nelson F
    April 7, 2017 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    It seems that I have been bombarded with so many negative words recently that I need a patron saint against gossip, etc. I vote Nonnatus.

  34. Diane's Gravatar Diane
    April 7, 2017 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    Alas, I remember having to IRON my gym class bloomers. Haven’t been fond of bloomers or ironing since. Another vote for Raymond!

    • Emmy's Gravatar Emmy
      April 7, 2017 - 5:09 pm | Permalink

      I actually like ironing, esp small linens when my Altar Guild laundry months roll around, but have no recollection of ever having to iron the gym bloomers. Perhaps my mother did it… she even ironed t-shirts. Our gym suits (short skirted dress w/bloomers beneath) were of a fabric I remember as Indianhead, a firmly-woven cotton. Were these only worn at Catholic girls’ schools? 😉
      And I voted for Raymond, and the midwives of London and around the world.

      • Laura J. Schomberg's Gravatar Laura J. Schomberg
        April 7, 2017 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

        I went to a public school and had to wear bloomers in Gym class Sounds like the same kind of material you had to wear.

  35. Jane's Gravatar Jane
    April 7, 2017 - 9:38 am | Permalink

    Like Amelia for caring about justice in government for women and better, safer fashion, but she seems to have a beam in her heart and eye when it comes to temperance. Raymond’s willingness to sell himself to free others and his focus on serving God makes my vote his.

  36. Len Freeman's Gravatar Len Freeman
    April 7, 2017 - 9:39 am | Permalink

    Looking through Amelia’s material here and elsewhere I get it that she was a feminist forerunner., which for sure she’s a winner on, but my idea of saintliness usually has some overt connection to God and Jesus which the writeups so far don’t particularly focus on. So… it’s Nonatus by default.

    • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
      April 7, 2017 - 10:00 am | Permalink

      Fighting for justice and equality for half the population seems to me to be very much connected to “God and Jesus.” If you can’t vote and participate fully in the life of your society, you cannot have justice. “Let justice roll down like waters,” says the Good Book. If you’re in that half of the population, you get that.

  37. St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
    April 7, 2017 - 9:43 am | Permalink

    I just realized that MC Hammer is indebted to Amelia Bloomer and that “U Can’t Touch This” is an early temperance slogan. In this hopeful Lenten game of choosing among “just good dead people,” I cast my vote for Amelia Bloomer. I also give thanks for having a vote and remind myself that after Easter comes Pentecost, a long green season in which to practice going out and helping to strengthen our desperately weak democracy. (Thanks to Megan and Laurie for their “womanly” efforts at the Kitsch round today. Well done.)

    • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
      April 7, 2017 - 10:59 am | Permalink
      • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
        April 7, 2017 - 10:59 am | Permalink

        • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
          April 7, 2017 - 11:03 am | Permalink

          Nothing says “Lent” like men in harem pants (I mean bloomers). Enjoy the Easter-egg pants and ceili-inflected choreography. It’s Hammer time. (I mean Lent.)

          • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
            April 7, 2017 - 1:18 pm | Permalink

            “Nothing says ‘Lent’ like men in harem pants”—!!!! Hilarious!!

          • Yvonne -=^..^=-'s Gravatar Yvonne -=^..^=-
            April 7, 2017 - 2:23 pm | Permalink

            Wow! You are awesome and made my day with “Hammer Time”!
            “Can’t touch this!”
            ROTFL
            -=^..^=-

    • April 7, 2017 - 12:29 pm | Permalink

      An early temperance slogan? I always sensed there was a hidden meaning in that lyric!

  38. Carol in Uganda's Gravatar Carol in Uganda
    April 7, 2017 - 9:45 am | Permalink

    After a bit of thought I decided on Raymond, partly because of Call the Midwife (which I love!) but also the notes about “legal prohibition ” not only being immoral (possibly) but also it does not work!

  39. XMS 5th grade Casey Crew's Gravatar XMS 5th grade Casey Crew
    April 7, 2017 - 9:46 am | Permalink

    The Hammer pants won us over!

  40. Gail Adams's Gravatar Gail Adams
    April 7, 2017 - 9:47 am | Permalink

    I can’t vote for Amelia, as she was an extremist. Refusing to go into houses that even had alcohol in them is a sign of extremism.

  41. Curt Harker's Gravatar Curt Harker
    April 7, 2017 - 9:48 am | Permalink

    You are tuned to the Lent Madness channel not the Lent History channel. If you don’t like what’s playing on the Lent Madness channel please feel free to not watch.

  42. LibraryLynn's Gravatar LibraryLynn
    April 7, 2017 - 9:50 am | Permalink

    I’m enjoying the kitsch this week, but I have to tell you (as someone who does historic reenacting of Amelia’s time period) that what you’re calling bloomers are really drawers – meant to be worn under clothing and never seen. They only come to a bit below the knee. Amelia’s bloomers were made of the same material as the rest of her dress – probably wool – and came down to her ankles. I haven’t figured out the knack of posting pictures here, but google her and you’ll see what I mean. That said, I love the rest of what you found!

    • Karin's Gravatar Karin
      April 7, 2017 - 2:00 pm | Permalink

      Thank you. I also was concerned that there seemed to be some confusion here between underwear and street clothes–no doubt related to the later usage of “bloomers” to mean a certain type of underpants, as the original “bloomers” did not survive long as ordinary wear. Accurate information–something librarians and library users care about!

  43. Lucy Porter's Gravatar Lucy Porter
    April 7, 2017 - 9:53 am | Permalink

    Raymond Nonnatus, for many reasons, not the least of which is his becoming a slave to save others from slavery. Also, “Call the Midwife’. Did any of you see the first episode of the new season last Sunday?

  44. Lee W.'s Gravatar Lee W.
    April 7, 2017 - 9:58 am | Permalink

    LOL! The commentary today was great and almost made me snort into my coffee! This line: “Unfortunately, from the samples provided, it sounds like a head-on collision between Kenny G and that NPR show that comes on at 2:00 am and only plays music about space.”

    • Linda Burnett's Gravatar Linda Burnett
      April 7, 2017 - 10:48 am | Permalink

      LOL. i know. Such a turn of a phrase!

    • April 7, 2017 - 10:52 am | Permalink

      Yes! That one was truly genius.

    • Megan Castellan's Gravatar Megan Castellan
      April 7, 2017 - 11:43 am | Permalink

      Thanks! 🙂

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      April 7, 2017 - 1:19 pm | Permalink

      Hey, I _like_ “Music From the Hearts of Space”! It used to come on at a time when people my age were awake. I’ll have to look for it online. Thanks!

  45. Lee W.'s Gravatar Lee W.
    April 7, 2017 - 10:04 am | Permalink

    I need silence. I need to listen more. Plus I do not care for bloomers or prohibition. St. Raymond Nonnatus, pray for me!

  46. Mrs. B.'s Gravatar Mrs. B.
    April 7, 2017 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    Just to show you how far into the future Amelia took us, the garment on the right (first picture) was known as “split drawers.” My vote goes for the Anglican nuns.

  47. Donna K.'s Gravatar Donna K.
    April 7, 2017 - 10:10 am | Permalink

    Every year for Lent I vow to give up gossiping and complaining about my co-workers. I also think a showdown between St. Raymond Nonnatus and Florence Nightingale would be epic. Voting for St. Raymond.

  48. Sheila's Gravatar Sheila
    April 7, 2017 - 10:12 am | Permalink

    For me, the fruit of Lent Madness is not in who wins, but in the opportunity to learn about 32 disciples of Christ and follow their examples. Whether I was already familiar with them or not, whether they are named saints or not, getting to know these holy people has enriched me and my Lenten journey the past 2 years. And it’s fun to play, so thank you SEC for your work. Peace of Christ.

    • Catherine Patterson's Gravatar Catherine Patterson
      April 7, 2017 - 11:55 am | Permalink

      Thanks Sheila. I also enjoy learning about the lives of the, “32” be they saints or commoners. I am always inspired by the breath of God that leads them so passionately to give their all for others. As Jesus did for all. During lent, I read, I smile, I vote and I contemplate how I can aspire. Who could I be with God’s breath?

    • Marie Cantrell's Gravatar Marie Cantrell
      April 7, 2017 - 1:41 pm | Permalink

      I also look forward to the comments every day. I feel like I have a community of new friends for 6 weeks and then will miss everyone when it is over. Kind of like going home after 6 weeks of summer camp.

  49. Patricia Gordon's Gravatar Patricia Gordon
    April 7, 2017 - 10:17 am | Permalink

    Despite a brief temptation when I saw the “Call the Midwife” felt mouse, I voted for Amelia. Why not – after all, my choice for the Golden Halo went down in defeat to Florence Nightingale. Besides, I really liked and admired Amelia Bloomer even before I knew she was considered a saint. 🙂

  50. Anne E.B.'s Gravatar Anne E.B.
    April 7, 2017 - 10:19 am | Permalink

    It appears Amelia Bloomer will win, and I admire her. She had my vote last round. This was a tough choice for me. But have to go all the way with Ray!

  51. April 7, 2017 - 10:35 am | Permalink

    Got to go with Nonnatus. Great grandmother was a midwife.

  52. Linda Burnett's Gravatar Linda Burnett
    April 7, 2017 - 10:46 am | Permalink

    if only because she made it ok for womrn to wear jeans *in a round about way) I would cast my vote for her…BUT she did so much more!

  53. Grace Cangialosi's Gravatar Grace Cangialosi
    April 7, 2017 - 10:49 am | Permalink

    I voted for Amelia, because she had such an ipact on our world today and on the fight for equality for women. But I also have an important question (that may already have been answered): Did we ever find out what happened to Oliver? Wa he unmasked as an adult, or…?

    • Mollie Douglas Turner+'s Gravatar Mollie Douglas Turner+
      April 7, 2017 - 1:32 pm | Permalink

      Yes, I want to know, too–I miss him!

  54. Katrina's Gravatar Katrina
    April 7, 2017 - 10:52 am | Permalink

    Well, I have a daughter named Amelia, so that should have pretty much dictated my vote. However, I do love Call the Midwife. In the end, I went with Amelia, because (other than that pesky No Alcohol thing) she speaks to the rebel in me.

  55. Megan O Jones's Gravatar Megan O Jones
    April 7, 2017 - 10:55 am | Permalink

    I was going to vote for Amelia anyway. But the fact that there is an Amelia Bloomer (orange juice) flask makes me really happy that I am doing so.

  56. Meredith Hales's Gravatar Meredith Hales
    April 7, 2017 - 10:56 am | Permalink

    Nonnatus! Lent Madness, forever!!

  57. Sara L's Gravatar Sara L
    April 7, 2017 - 11:21 am | Permalink

    I’ve voted for Ms. Bloomer every round for her crusade for women and children in society and in the church. And also, I love the garb! I’ve voted for the other guy in each round with Sr. Nonnatus because of my squeamishness over his birth (surely killed his mom), his slave-trading (even if for their freedom, trading it was), and his mutilation (though not his fault, it gives me nightmares).

    Also, I’m influenced as always by the ‘Lent Madness Commentariat.’ fn
    That term *almost* swayed me toward her candidate, in and of itself. I’m going to use it in social media from this day forward!

    fn: Castellan, Megan “Raymond Nonnatus,” http://www.lentmadness.org/2017/04/raymond-nonnatus-vs-amelia-bloomer/#more-7567 (April 7, 2017)

    • April 7, 2017 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

      Sara, I agree that, by buying slaves their freedom, Raymond did, in that sense, participate in the slave trade. But how else could he have done it?

    • April 7, 2017 - 12:47 pm | Permalink

      Raymond’s caesarian didn’t kill his mom, according to the story. Right after she died, his father asked that this operation be performed to try to save the baby.

  58. John's Gravatar John
    April 7, 2017 - 11:22 am | Permalink

    Raymond risked his life to ransom those held hostage by the medieval version of ISIS, probably realizing that his own life was a gift since his mom died as he was born. Bloomer will get too many votes for representing the women’s suffrage movement, but that movement banned drinking beer, and I can’t live without craft beer. And (to exaggerate) she’s anti-church: how can we celebrate Eucharist without wine?

    I’m for Ray! Islamic extremism, kidnapping for ransom, issues of war & peace and how to respond to barbarism — these are still with is. Ray chose non-violence, and gave his life (he died a year after being tortured by the Caliph). Go Ray!

    • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
      April 7, 2017 - 1:23 pm | Permalink

      Well, you know, John, the Baptists and Methodists (I used to be a Methodist!) do it without wine all the time. But it ain’t the same, it ain’t the same at all!

      • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
        April 7, 2017 - 4:08 pm | Permalink

        Welsh’s Grape Juice was invented by a Methodist and tastes better than sherry* but no where near as good as port.

        *Yes I know sherry comes out of the linens easier but if clergy & LEMs are careful, there should be no wine on the linens!

  59. John Crittenden's Gravatar John Crittenden
    April 7, 2017 - 11:28 am | Permalink

    Well, we see who wears the pants in this competition!!
    Gee, my wife and I drove through Seneca Falls last summer.
    The static in the air remains, wow.
    A lovely flowing river, stately buildings, and ….
    Amelia Bedelia for me. I know who wears the pants.

  60. Pat Floerke's Gravatar Pat Floerke
    April 7, 2017 - 11:33 am | Permalink

    A victory for Amelia will guarantee that a woman will be in the finals. I voted for Amelia for several reasons, but that was the main one.

  61. Ellen's Gravatar Ellen
    April 7, 2017 - 11:34 am | Permalink

    I believe it is important to look at temperance in context. Women had few options for income and were dependent on their husbands not only for themselves but for their children. Alcohol was largely consumed by men, yet many of it’s consequences dramatically affected women and children. There was little understanding of alcoholism, and no effective treatment. Temperance was the only known method for prevention and treatment. The temperance movement also advocated for labor laws, prison reform and women’s voting rights

    • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
      April 7, 2017 - 1:25 pm | Permalink

      Thank you, Ellen, for giving the temperance movement some context. It’s always risky to judge people of another time and place without context!

  62. April 7, 2017 - 11:41 am | Permalink

    Raymond Nonnatus, who dedicated his life to freeing Christians and slaves vs Ms Bloomer, an ardent defender of the marginalized and disenfranchised. Amelia is cool but Nonnatus wins for me.
    I’m struck by Raymond’s box score: first he freed 140 victims in Valencia hen 280 in Algiers. Then out of cash, he soldiered on and negotiated he release of 28 souls in Tunis with the currency of his own life. Nothing speaks louder about this man’s depth of faith than that. His value wasn’t on huge numbers, even a fractional win, that perverbal raindrop in the ocean was a trade worthy of his life. Reminds me of a certain Son of God we so admire!
    I wonder if Raymond would have had a better shot in Lent Madness if we called him by his non-Anglicized name, Father Ramon Nonato? Ah well! I’m grateful to have ‘met’ this noble Christian soul.

  63. Bill Thomas's Gravatar Bill Thomas
    April 7, 2017 - 11:42 am | Permalink

    I grew up in St. Raymond’s parish in the Bronx which has a lovely stained glass window of its namesake. Gotta go with Raymond.

  64. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    April 7, 2017 - 11:45 am | Permalink

    I knit. The yarn tipped the scale. And a Raymond Nonnatus v Florence Nightingale match up would be interesting (except for the nurse midwives of the Lent Madness-verse who would be split between the mother of modern nursing and the patron saint of midwifery).

  65. Karen Ingraham's Gravatar Karen Ingraham
    April 7, 2017 - 11:45 am | Permalink

    Amelia Bloomer represents all the best in fortitude and get-it-fineness! She is my vote for the Golden Halo!

  66. Roberta Matty's Gravatar Roberta Matty
    April 7, 2017 - 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Praise to Diana for putting our saints in prospective in such a way as to aid me in my voting and I marvel at her talent.

  67. Melanie of Clermont's Gravatar Melanie of Clermont
    April 7, 2017 - 1:02 pm | Permalink

    It is Raymond Nonnatus for me! His Christian self sacrifice, unwavering position against gossip and of course, being the patron saint of midwives, does it for me. Besides, what would communion be without wine being blessed on the altar?

  68. Jennifer Allen's Gravatar Jennifer Allen
    April 7, 2017 - 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Although I voted as I thought I would for Amelia, I did take the offerings from the bloggers quite seriously and listened to a couple of the catchy hits from Celebrar la Vida Santuario San Ramon Nonatus, which is available in its entirety on iTunes for some unknown reason. Megan you nailed it, that album sounds exactly like “a head-on collision between Kenny G and that NPR show that comes on at 2:00 am and only plays music about space.” Yikes!

  69. fR's Gravatar fR
    April 7, 2017 - 1:35 pm | Permalink

    While I still think most highly of Amelia .this vote I must go with Raymond Nonnatus ..AND LIFT MY CUP TO “CALL THE MIDWIFE” and to FRONTIER NURSING UNIVERSITY and the fantastic words on Midwifery they have dispenced..

  70. Heather's Gravatar Heather
    April 7, 2017 - 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I write to thank our bloggers for a terrific round of kitsch highlighting the creative imago dei. Indeed, God has a sense of humor and nowhere is this more evident than in saintly kitsch. Now, if we could just find a way to padlock missiles and clothe the world what kind of holy madness that would be.

    • April 7, 2017 - 2:25 pm | Permalink

      Very well put, Heather. I like your thinking.

    • St. Celia's Gravatar St. Celia
      April 7, 2017 - 3:11 pm | Permalink

      “Padlock missiles as holy madness.” I too like your thinking. At $3MM per Tomahawk missile, a “symbolic” gesture such as, say, pounding an empty airstrip could cost $180MM, which would fund a lot of Meals on Wheels and Planned Parenthood and PBS and, oh let’s swing for the bleachers here, support for resettlement as our own neighbors of refugees from sarin gas attacks.

  71. Beverley Bryant's Gravatar Beverley Bryant
    April 7, 2017 - 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Has to be Amelia. Can you imagine drinking from a mug with padlocked lips on it?

  72. Linda N's Gravatar Linda N
    April 7, 2017 - 2:26 pm | Permalink

    A great match-up. But the best kitsch for this baseball lover is the padlocks with baseball players depicted on them. Raymond of the (baseball) padlocks for me! If my husband were still alive, he’d be searching for those for his baseball memorabilia collection.

  73. Linda from St. Ed's's Gravatar Linda from St. Ed's
    April 7, 2017 - 3:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m voting for Raymond Nonnatus, for reasons unrelated to his kitsch, but I loved Megan Castellan’s witty write up. And there’s something just wonderfully nonsensical about an Amelia Bloomer hip flask.

  74. Izzie's Gravatar Izzie
    April 7, 2017 - 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Go Amelia but gotta love dead guy perfume.

    • April 7, 2017 - 5:12 pm | Permalink

      Actually, it’s not perfume. It’s used to cast spells (Santeria, I would guess). I went to the site that sells it, and they also offer Graveyard Dirt.

  75. David Carver's Gravatar David Carver
    April 7, 2017 - 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Much as I admire Raymond Nonnatus, I’m pleased Amelia Bloomer is doing as well as she is. I hope in time this sort of feeling gets reflected with visible results in our church hierarchy, but we’ve still got a ways to go in shattering the stained glass ceiling.

    • Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
      April 8, 2017 - 6:54 pm | Permalink

      We (in a large part of the Anglican Communion) have female bishops and we (The Episcopal Church) have had a female Presiding Bishop (and I suspect that I will even live to see a female Archbishop of Canterbury).

  76. April 7, 2017 - 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Voted for each of this noted pair once so far (Nonnatus in the first round, Bloomer in the second).

    Plenty of good reasons to vote FOR either. No really compelling reason to vote AGAINST either.

    While I’m not a Kitsch Krank, I tend not to vote according to the kitsch. Nevertheless, both of them have decent kitsch.

    While there’s a strong a “Call the Midwife” vibe to Raymond, one can say that (as Ms. Nightingale was the founder of the ethos of the nursing profession AND was involved in sharp-end wartime health care), a vote for Nurse Flo in previous (and future) rounds could count as a proxy vote for everyone on “Call the Midwife” AS WELL AS everyone on “M*A*S*H” (even the patron saint of everyone who studied theology in the ’70s and early ’80s, Father Mulcahy). So there’s “Call the Midwife” covered.

    Still hoping for a Nightingale-Jägerstätter final, but voting for Ms. Bloomer today.

    • Susan Maurine's Gravatar Susan Maurine
      April 7, 2017 - 6:30 pm | Permalink

      I’m glad you brought up “MASH”!

  77. Fiona's Gravatar Fiona
    April 7, 2017 - 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Hardest decision yet having voted for both. However in the end the environmentally friendly and comfortable bloomers won me over, alongside the slogan ‘Well behaved women seldom make history’.

  78. andrea's Gravatar andrea
    April 7, 2017 - 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Liked the flask with the picture of Amelia. On the Bloomer suit:
    “And now I’m dressed like a little girl, in a dress both loose and short,
    Oh with what freedom I can sing, and walk all ‘round about!
    And when I get a little strength, some work I think I can do,
    ‘Twill give me health and comfort, and make me useful too.” — The Sibyl magazine, April 15, 1859.
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomers_(clothing)
    Go Amelia! Pants!

  79. Martha Bains's Gravatar Martha Bains
    April 7, 2017 - 11:27 pm | Permalink

    SEC – don’t know how to say this otherwise.

    I haven’t tried, but it looks like I can vote twice – once on my mac and once on my kindle. As I haven’t tried, I don’t know if it would actually go through with the same email. Since we’ve had a try at gaming the madness, I thought I’d let you know that smaller possibility seems to exist. Perhaps it doesn’t and if I’d tried I ‘d know. I have been sorely tempted, but since Flo won easily, I’m figuring on honesty as the best policy.

  80. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    April 8, 2017 - 7:04 pm | Permalink

    It appears that Monday will be the Battle of the Male Martyrs and Tuesday will be the Battle of the Persistent Women. Then on Spy Wednesday it will be one of the following:

    Amelia v Franz
    Amelia v Stephen
    Florence v Franz
    Florence v Stephen

  81. Mariah's Gravatar Mariah
    April 8, 2017 - 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Raymond Nonnatus

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