Hannah Grier Coome vs. Richard Allen

In the closest battle of Lent Madness 2019 to date, Nicodemus edged James the Greater 51% to 49% yesterday to advance to the Saintly Sixteen where he’ll face Martha of Bethany for a shot at the Elate Eight. See? Every (single) vote counts! But be aware that multiple voting will get you cast out into the outer darkness of Lent Madness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Remember, Big Lent is watching…

Today, we head up to the Great White North of Canada to meet Hannah Grier Coome and back down to Philadelphia to encounter the pioneering ministry of Richard Allen.

Yesterday, in addition to the nail biting Biblical matchup, we offered everyone a rare glimpse behind the Purple Curtain that is the Supreme Executive Committee. In case you missed it, you can catch up here.

Hannah Grier Coome

Hannah Grier CoomeHannah Grier Coome was born October 28, 1837, to the Rev. John Grier and Eliza Geddes in Carrying Place, Upper Canada, and is known as the founder of the Sisterhood of St. John the Divine in the Anglican Church of Canada.

With her father serving as rector of an Anglican congregation, Hannah had ties to the church from the beginning of her life. On July 23, 1859, Hannah married Charles Horace Coome, a civil engineer working on the railroad. When his contract was complete, he took Hannah back to his native country of England. There, Hannah was influenced by the Oxford Movement and the local Community of St. Mary the Virgin. Hannah was immediately drawn to their works of service and their strong commitment to the mission of Christ’s church in the world.

While living in England, Hannah became pregnant but lost what would be her only child after a dangerous fall. Following a lengthy convalescence, Hannah and Charles left England and ended up in Chicago, Illinois, where her husband died a year later. Hannah returned to Toronto and connected with a group of devout Christians who felt the need to establish a monastic community for women. This group of men and women began working together to raise funds and find a permanent location to establish the sisterhood. Hannah left for upstate New York to train at the Community of Saint Mary in order to gain the education she needed to lead the order.

Sister Hannah returned to Toronto in 1884 to lead the newly founded Sisters of St. John the Divine (SSJD). The sisters were called to serve as nurses to soldiers in the Northwest Rebellion and returned to Toronto to grow the ministry; the Sisters of St. John the Divine continues to this day as a thriving monastic community.

Mother Hannah died on February 9, 1921, on an Ash Wednesday surrounded by her family of sisters. The order she founded lays claim to sister houses (past and present) in Quebec, Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Toronto, British Columbia, and Alberta. The sisterhood is known for training nurses, providing rehabilitative care, opening hospitals, providing education and shelter, and care for the elderly. SSJD serves both urban and rural areas of Canada and founded St. John’s Rehabilitation Hospital in Toronto.

Collect for Hannah Grier Coome
Almighty God, you have surrounded us with a great cloud of witnesses: Grant that we, encouraged by the good example of your servant Hannah, may persevere in running the race that is set before us, until at last we may with her attain to your eternal joy; through Jesus Christ, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

-Anna Fitch Courie

Richard Allen

Richard AllenMany Episcopalians have heard the name Absalom Jones; however, few know of Richard Allen, Jones’s Methodist counterpart and co-conspirator for racial justice.

Born as an enslaved man, Allen and his family were sold to a man who owned a plantation in Delaware. The plantation owner was convinced by a Methodist preacher that slavery was sinful and eventually offered his slaves the opportunity to buy their freedom, which Allen did in 1780, changing his name from “Negro Richard” to “Richard Allen.”

Credentialed as a Methodist minister in 1784, Allen eventually moved to Philadelphia to minister to the burgeoning population of free blacks. He became a minister at St. George’s Methodist Episcopal Church but was relegated to early morning services for black congregants. This segregation was a constant source of tension between the white and black congregations of the church. While at St. George’s, Allen met Absalom Jones, another minister at the church, and the two founded the Free African Society.

In 1787, Allen, Jones, and other black worshipers were pulled from their knees during prayer, and the entire black congregation walked out, vowing never to return. While Jones went on to become an Episcopal priest and lead the Free African Society toward affiliation with the Episcopal Church, Allen founded the African Methodist Episcopal Church for those who wanted to continue in the Methodist tradition. Originally, the church operated out of a blacksmith shop and had to rely on white pastors for oversight and sacramental functions, but Allen was eventually ordained as a Methodist minister in 1799; in 1816, four other churches joined with what was then Bethel AME Church to establish the African Methodist Episcopal Church as the first independent black Christian denomination. Allen was elected as the first bishop, a ministry he served until his death in 1831.

In addition to making history as a religious protestor and founder and first bishop of the first independent black Christian denomination, Allen and his wife Sarah also operated a station on the Underground Railroad.

Collect for Richard Allen
Loving God, who makes us all your children by adoption in Jesus Christ: May we, following the example of your servant Richard Allen, proclaim liberty to all who are enslaved and captive in this world; through Jesus Christ, Savior of all, who with you and the Holy Spirit lives and reigns, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

-Marcus Halley

Hannah Grier Coome vs. Richard Allen

  • Richard Allen (61%, 5,586 Votes)
  • Hannah Grier Coome (39%, 3,568 Votes)

Total Voters: 9,154

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Hannah Grier Coome: Courtesy of the Sisterhood of St. John the Divine
Richard Allen: By Daniel A. Payne [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

203 Comments to "Hannah Grier Coome vs. Richard Allen"

  1. John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
    March 13, 2019 - 8:00 am | Permalink

    This clergyman born into slavery
    Methodically fought racist knavery.
    When prevented from prayer,
    He established elsewhere;
    So Allen gets my vote for bravery.

    • Kate the Catechist's Gravatar Kate the Catechist
      March 13, 2019 - 8:17 am | Permalink

      Allen all the way!

      • Bob's Gravatar Bob
        March 13, 2019 - 2:29 pm | Permalink

        Thaaaaats myyyyy booiii

    • jesus's Gravatar jesus
      March 13, 2019 - 8:22 am | Permalink

      men with the name allen are the best

      • He!an Wheeler's Gravatar He!an Wheeler
        March 13, 2019 - 5:18 pm | Permalink

        I had trouble with these two saints. I know the SSJD has been a source of support for many over the yezrs. However,the struggle and bigotry Richard endured and kept on his path because of his faith and determination for justice confirmed my choice for him.

    • Karen's Gravatar Karen
      March 13, 2019 - 9:23 am | Permalink

      What a gift you have-well done!

    • Kathie Johnson's Gravatar Kathie Johnson
      March 13, 2019 - 10:19 am | Permalink

      I loved both these candidates and feel they are both worthy to progress to the next round. After struggling to pick a candidate between earlier contestants, I wish the matchups were picked a little better.

      • Yvonne's Gravatar Yvonne
        March 13, 2019 - 1:42 pm | Permalink

        Close match ups are the best in any competition! No one enjoys a blow out. As the SEC always point out , the Saints already have their infinite reward… advancing to the next round is simply icing on their saintly cake. I just enjoy the ride!

    • Rosanne's Gravatar Rosanne
      March 13, 2019 - 11:07 am | Permalink

      This poem sums up all the reasons I love Lent Madness. A poem.

    • Renee D's Gravatar Renee D
      March 13, 2019 - 11:29 am | Permalink

      I enjoy your poems every day!

    • Mary Lou's Gravatar Mary Lou
      March 13, 2019 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

      Love it!

    • March 13, 2019 - 12:05 pm | Permalink

      Did it again!

    • Ben Dover's Gravatar Ben Dover
      March 13, 2019 - 2:22 pm | Permalink

      Great thing

    • Sharon Pattison's Gravatar Sharon Pattison
      March 13, 2019 - 8:53 pm | Permalink

      John I whole hearted agree with you, the font is small, but my glasses get ne thru! I am from Canada, But did not vote for,my fellow Canadian, I also,have roots in England and Ireland! And some of my family are United Empire Loyalists, I am married to a Anglican Irish man whose mother was born in Circleville,Ohio, his father was from Hepworth Ontario’! My uncle Art Diesbourg was RUM RUNNER ! I am Irish Catholic, but choose to be Condirmed in the Anglican Church in Windsor, Ontsrio!
      I think personally that what the young man had to go,thru, was most more than anyone of us would handle,!
      I have had both knees and hips replaced and had an – ANEURSYM , ALL,IN FIVE YEARS,the last was in 2012, I will be 76!years young April 12,2019, and feel the need to live to,spread the word about the miracles around the world and that people, some very ordinary people like me have something to be happy to be still here! I will be married to my love Gary for 56 years June /29,2019, God willing! We are presently purging having just sold our HOUSE Feb. 14/19 that we have been infor 51 years! I don’t always get to this madness in the early hours because we are moving March 18 to,our next HOME, till GOD TAKE S US TO,OUR FOREVER HOME!

    • John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
      March 13, 2019 - 9:34 pm | Permalink

      To the brief limerick above I should add that I hold the greatest respect for the SSJD’s works, as well as for Canada and Canadians (both those I know personally and the nation itself). I have always felt a close connection (both by name and by inclination) to an admirable country that must find us a most troublesome neighbor at times.

      Greetings to my fellow communicants of the Anglican Church of Canada; I wish that I may have the pleasure of meeting you one day in my travels.

    • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
      March 13, 2019 - 10:27 pm | Permalink

      John Cabot, you never fail to deliver.

  2. Michael Wachter's Gravatar Michael Wachter
    March 13, 2019 - 8:01 am | Permalink

    Today’s musical tribute is sung to the titular song (and 11 o’clock number) from Rodgers and Hammerstein’s “Oklahoma!” I hope you enjoy!

    Han-nah Grier Coome was a Pastor’s Kid from days gone by.
    First she wed a man –
    Moved to England
    Where the Oxford Movement caught her eye.

    Han-nah Grier Coome fell when pregnant. What a nasty blow!
    Lost her child. She cried.
    Her husband died
    So she went home to Ontario.

    She started an order this time:
    The Sisters of John the Divine!
    And we can say (Yow!)
    That to this very day (Yow!)
    This nursing order’s spread all the way across Can’da
    Due to Hannah! OK!

    Ri-chard Allen: born a slave who bought his liberty.
    When he heard God’s call,
    He gave his all
    To serve former slaves who now were free.

    Ri-chard Allen met a Piskie man named Absalom.
    They were in a lurch
    When, once, in church,
    White men said, “You black folks don’t belong!”

    Not letting his faith be restrained,
    Allen was Methodist Church ordained.
    And then with glee (Yow!)
    He starts the AME (Yow!)
    And Allen was the first bishop of the first black church!
    Richard Allen’s okay!

    CHORUS repeats on next verse:
    (Golden! Halo! Golden! Halo!)

    Both saints worked and stove fervently
    To found things that still thrive currently.
    So when we say (Yow!)
    The world’s better today (Yow!)
    For Rich and Hannah. Both should wear bright Golden Halos!
    Golden Halo!

    G-O-L-D H-A-L-O

    Golden Halos! Yow!

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      March 13, 2019 - 8:27 am | Permalink

      It’s quite the musical morning on Lent Madness!

      • Annie's Gravatar Annie
        March 13, 2019 - 9:50 am | Permalink

        Both so deserving to win…

    • Ray's Gravatar Ray
      March 13, 2019 - 8:38 am | Permalink

      I’m dead and this song killed me. What a way to start a Wednesday day! Now I’ll have this song stuck in my head all day! But tRayhank you for your wonderful talent in bringing their stories to musical life!

    • Mercy's Gravatar Mercy
      March 13, 2019 - 9:00 am | Permalink

      Yippee kid yea!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 9:32 am | Permalink

      “Restrained”/”ordained” — These are the rhymes that really got me this morning! So funny. I think show tunes and Lent Madness are the perfect combination for this competition! Thanks again, Michael!

    • Ginny Berkey's Gravatar Ginny Berkey
      March 13, 2019 - 10:33 am | Permalink

      Loved it! Definitely an ear worm!

    • Diana's Gravatar Diana
      March 13, 2019 - 11:45 am | Permalink

      I’ve been hearing Oklahoma all morning, and since I joyously cast my vote for Hannah Grier Coome, here is another verse for her to the same tune:

      Mo-ther Hannah is the Saint for whom to cast your vote!
      For she bore her cross, in face of loss
      When the world swept all her dreams away!
      Mo-ther Hannah took her grief and sorrow and with faith
      Formed a place of hope, and prayer and love
      Where the sick and needy could know care.
      She knew Christ had called her to serve.
      And from that call she never did swerve!
      And she sang “Yes! This life is joyful praise!”
      Her Sisters still sing,
      “Thank You, O Christ for Mother Hannah!
      Who helps us follow your way!”

      • Lou's Gravatar Lou
        March 13, 2019 - 3:03 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Diana. Hannah is singing too. Even with so many difficult journeys she traveled, found God and saints to lead others. West coast votes for our Canadian +Mother.

      • Pat Watson's Gravatar Pat Watson
        March 13, 2019 - 9:45 pm | Permalink

        Nursing is my bond with this amazing lady, she needed care and comfort for a time then went on to provide care and comfort to many. Hannah is my choice today.

      • Stephanie's Gravatar Stephanie
        March 13, 2019 - 9:47 pm | Permalink

        While I love them both, I too had to go with Mother Hannah!

    • Mary Lou's Gravatar Mary Lou
      March 13, 2019 - 12:02 pm | Permalink

      Well done!

    • VT Patty's Gravatar VT Patty
      March 13, 2019 - 12:08 pm | Permalink


    • Jean Garrison's Gravatar Jean Garrison
      March 13, 2019 - 12:55 pm | Permalink

      My favorite!

    • Kathleen Sheehy's Gravatar Kathleen Sheehy
      March 13, 2019 - 3:18 pm | Permalink

      Best. Parody. Ever!

    • Beth Deville's Gravatar Beth Deville
      March 13, 2019 - 9:16 pm | Permalink

      Brilliant song, Michael; thank you!

    • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
      March 13, 2019 - 10:28 pm | Permalink


    • Linda Barnard's Gravatar Linda Barnard
      March 15, 2019 - 12:55 am | Permalink

      Michael, I love it! Brilliant!!

  3. March 13, 2019 - 8:02 am | Permalink

    The Seven Joys of Mother Hannah

    The first good joy that Hannah had, it was the joy of one.
    One love as found in singleness of heart for God alone.
    She was baptised, and married too,
    Was widowed: free to heed God’s call.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The next good joy that Hannah had it was the joy of two.
    When Jesus taught the ten commands were summed into just two.
    To love God and your neighbour too
    And this is what she strove to do.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The next good joy that Hannah had it was the joy of three.
    To sense her call was amplified to found community.
    The Sisters of St. John today
    Give thanks for willing hearts that say,
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The fourth good joy that Hannah had, ’twas grace’s joy to be,
    To have her time as Novice with the Sisters of Mary,
    She went to Peekskill, honed her skills,
    Then made her vows with strengthened will.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The fifth good joy that Hannah had it was the work of prayer.
    To start the new community whose first work was its prayer,
    All other work proceeds from it
    But prayer comes first no matter what.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The sixth good joy that Hannah had it was the joy of love,
    To found a woman’s hospital where there was none before.
    The poor, the sick, the unloved too,
    Were nursed — their troubles handled too.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    The seventh joy that Hannah had it was the joy of sight,
    To watch her small community grow onward true and bright!
    And here today we love and pray
    And serve the world in our own way.
    Praise Father, Spirit and the Son, through all eternity.

    Mother Hannah gets my vote — for the community she founded and for all the people she and the community she began has helped and goes on helping yet today.

    • Diana's Gravatar Diana
      March 13, 2019 - 8:14 am | Permalink

      Awesome hymn Sister Elizabeth Ann. Cheering For Mother Hannah today!

      • Amy's Gravatar Amy
        March 13, 2019 - 8:50 am | Permalink

        Thank you Sister Elizabeth Ann,
        Wonderfully written hymn,
        Cheering for Mother Hannah.

        • Mary Margaret Yates's Gravatar Mary Margaret Yates
          March 13, 2019 - 9:15 am | Permalink

          Where is the like button for Sister Elizabeth Ann’s tribute to Mother Hannah

          • Francie Healy's Gravatar Francie Healy
            March 13, 2019 - 9:43 am | Permalink

            I want a “like” button (more precisely, a “love” button) for Sr. Elizabeth Ann’s tribute, too. How beautiful! I’m also cheering for Mother Hannah. Anyone who could start such a profoundly important, loving, creative, significant, active order as the Sisters of St. John the Divine deserves all the votes we can muster. Yay, Mother Hannah!

          • kesmarn's Gravatar kesmarn
            March 13, 2019 - 10:30 pm | Permalink

            Good question! Hannah has my vote.

          • Jane E's Gravatar Jane E
            March 14, 2019 - 12:02 am | Permalink

            Hard choice, but the Good Sister has my vote.

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      March 13, 2019 - 8:26 am | Permalink

      Well done, Sr. Elizabeth Ann!

    • Jack Zamboni's Gravatar Jack Zamboni
      March 13, 2019 - 8:46 am | Permalink

      Thank you, Sister, not least for the reminder that the life of prayer is at the heart of your community’s life and ministry.

      I’m curious to know what (if any) is the relationship between the SSJD and SSJE communities. As I’m sure you know, the latter had a house in Ontario for many years. The similarity in names suggests some connection…

      • Malcolm French's Gravatar Malcolm French
        March 13, 2019 - 5:10 pm | Permalink

        There was no formal connection. Indeed, the SSJE Canadian House at Bracebridge wasn’t even near any of the SSJD Houses. However, I happen to be aware that one of the last brothers at Bracebridge had been an Associate of the SSJD prior to pursuing his monastic vocation.

    • George Hayhoe's Gravatar George Hayhoe
      March 13, 2019 - 8:50 am | Permalink

      Well done, Sister!

    • Norab's Gravatar Norab
      March 13, 2019 - 9:10 am | Permalink

      My vote for Hannah!

    • Patricia White's Gravatar Patricia White
      March 13, 2019 - 9:17 am | Permalink

      Beautiful, thank you.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 9:33 am | Permalink

      Oh, that’s lovely, Sister Elizabeth!

    • March 13, 2019 - 9:33 am | Permalink

      LIKE. Thanks, Sister Elizabeth. I’m casting my vote for Mother Hannah in honor of my Canadian biological mother, Isabelle!

    • Rene Jamieson's Gravatar Rene Jamieson
      March 13, 2019 - 9:49 am | Permalink

      As a long-time member of the Associates of the Sisters of St. John the Dive, my vote goes to Mother Hannah. I honour not only Mother Hannah this way, but all the devoted Sisters of St. John the Divine who have served our Lord in unstinting service to others.

      • Rene Jamieson's Gravatar Rene Jamieson
        March 13, 2019 - 9:50 am | Permalink

        Not ‘Dive’! Divine! (Sorry about that, Mother Hannah, Sister Elizabeth Ann – my mind works faster than my fingers.)

    • Susan Johnson's Gravatar Susan Johnson
      March 13, 2019 - 11:05 am | Permalink

      Add me to the list of those wanting a “like” or “love” button for Sr. Elizabeth Ann’s tribute to Mother Hannah! And I agree with Michael that both Mother Hannah and Richard Allen should have Golden Halos. A tough choice today, but as an Associate of SSJD, I have to vote for Mother Hannah! 😉

    • Vanessa's Gravatar Vanessa
      March 13, 2019 - 11:17 am | Permalink

      As as Associate of the Sisterhood of St. John the Divine of 30 years, my vote is for Mother Hannah! Thank you Sister Elizabeth Ann for posting the “Seven Joys of Mother Hannah”, so divinely inspired and reflective.

    • Jo Davies's Gravatar Jo Davies
      March 13, 2019 - 11:36 am | Permalink

      Cheering and Voting for Mother Hannah!

    • March 13, 2019 - 11:52 am | Permalink

      As an SSJD Associate Priest, I offer prayers daily for the community Mother Hannah founded – in gratitude for their devotion to a Rule of Life in response to the love of God, and which fosters their continued ministry of prayer, healing, and hospitality within this fractured world. “Deo gratia!”

    • Marilyn Kennedy's Gravatar Marilyn Kennedy
      March 13, 2019 - 9:34 pm | Permalink

      Thank you Sister Elizabeth Ann!! A wonderful tribute to Mother Hannah – Thank you for posting the “Seven Joys of Mother Hannah

      My love to all of you!! Marilyn Kennedy

    • Beth Deville's Gravatar Beth Deville
      March 13, 2019 - 10:42 pm | Permalink

      Thank you for this wonderful hymn, Sr. Elizabeth Ann; am proud to have voted for Mother Hannah, the first Canadian woman to be included in this competition!

      • Edna parsons's Gravatar Edna parsons
        March 15, 2019 - 10:48 am | Permalink

        A beautiful poem! Thankyou Sr. Elizabeth Ann
        ! My vote is for Mother Hannah!

  4. jolee schumacher's Gravatar jolee schumacher
    March 13, 2019 - 8:08 am | Permalink

    vote for hannah she amazing

  5. Carolyn Mack's Gravatar Carolyn Mack
    March 13, 2019 - 8:11 am | Permalink

    Richard Allen for me. He founded a sect that has brought public spirituality to millions along with education, child care services, etc., etc. when those were not available generally to African Americans. Plus, I teach in Delaware and there are so few historical figures with Delaware connections.

  6. Ann G.'s Gravatar Ann G.
    March 13, 2019 - 8:15 am | Permalink

    Most difficult choice thus far! But I had to go w/ Hannah: Canada, nuns, woman.

  7. Signe Spencer's Gravatar Signe Spencer
    March 13, 2019 - 8:17 am | Permalink

    This is a hard choice as both did many good works, without any indication of negative side effects. And both are from oft ignored groups. It is not fair to pit them against each other. I want BOTH to move forward.

  8. Martha Richards's Gravatar Martha Richards
    March 13, 2019 - 8:19 am | Permalink

    This was a hard one but I chose Richard Allen. Both did wonderful works.

  9. Michael Cartwright's Gravatar Michael Cartwright
    March 13, 2019 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    Despite the fact that “credentialed” was used as a verb I amgoing for Richard Allen.

  10. Lee Greenawalt's Gravatar Lee Greenawalt
    March 13, 2019 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    As the music from the local AME church gets carried to the nearby public school, I must vote that Richard Allen deserves a halo that shows sainthood to all around.

  11. Bella Englebach's Gravatar Bella Englebach
    March 13, 2019 - 8:20 am | Permalink

    As a member of the Diocese of Pennsylvania, I have to vote for Absolom Jones’ companion in faith.

  12. Rebecca Christian's Gravatar Rebecca Christian
    March 13, 2019 - 8:21 am | Permalink

    I look forward to the great limerick and song parody every day! They put a smile on my face and give my heart a lift. Thank you!!

  13. Maggie M.'s Gravatar Maggie M.
    March 13, 2019 - 8:22 am | Permalink

    Richard Allen is very brave he gets my vote

    • Rian Restau's Gravatar Rian Restau
      March 13, 2019 - 8:29 am | Permalink

      NO VOTE FOR HANNAH MAGGIE YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!! Gods blessings to you though…..for everyone who sees this we are friends and i know her

      • Maggie M.'s Gravatar Maggie M.
        March 13, 2019 - 8:30 am | Permalink


      • Maggie M.'s Gravatar Maggie M.
        March 13, 2019 - 8:31 am | Permalink

        ok i will jk

  14. Irene's Gravatar Irene
    March 13, 2019 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    Tough one. Normally, I would go with any woman foundress of a religious order. Rebels all, even if the narratives don’t say that. But this Philly girl could not say no to the founder of Mother Bethel AME. Richard Allen.

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      March 13, 2019 - 8:29 am | Permalink

      Clever reply, Irene!

  15. Rian Restau's Gravatar Rian Restau
    March 13, 2019 - 8:26 am | Permalink

    Hannah!!!!!!!!!!!Vote PLEASE!!!!!!!

  16. Judy Ellis's Gravatar Judy Ellis
    March 13, 2019 - 8:28 am | Permalink

    My vote is for Hanna Her work is very alive yet today

  17. Kit Mackenzie's Gravatar Kit Mackenzie
    March 13, 2019 - 8:28 am | Permalink

    A tough call!

  18. Trudy Johnson's Gravatar Trudy Johnson
    March 13, 2019 - 8:30 am | Permalink

    Being Canadian, this one was an easy choice.

  19. Karin's Gravatar Karin
    March 13, 2019 - 8:30 am | Permalink

    This was the toughest choice yet!

  20. Pris's Gravatar Pris
    March 13, 2019 - 8:35 am | Permalink

    The decision on who to vote for is so difficult this year!

  21. Rian Restau's Gravatar Rian Restau
    March 13, 2019 - 8:41 am | Permalink

    Vote for Hannah she is a very holy and wonderful women. She stuck through the task God gave her and completed his will for her. God’s blessings everyone

  22. Mary Hawes's Gravatar Mary Hawes
    March 13, 2019 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    Sorry – couldn’t vote for anyone bearing the name of my ex.

  23. Kc grieser's Gravatar Kc grieser
    March 13, 2019 - 8:43 am | Permalink

    Allen set precedence
    With boycott attempt
    Little did he know
    Not so long ago
    His brothers did the same
    With Civil Rights fame

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 9:21 am | Permalink

      Touché! And wouldn’t they be proud!

    • theodora a ashby's Gravatar theodora a ashby
      March 13, 2019 - 10:32 am | Permalink

      Excellent, thank you

  24. Helen Spence's Gravatar Helen Spence
    March 13, 2019 - 8:47 am | Permalink

    I found this vote harder to make than the one between Mary and Martha of Bethany. Both holy and qualified candidates with outstanding reasons to earn our votes. Good Job!

  25. Isabelle Melese-d'Hospital's Gravatar Isabelle Melese-d'Hospital
    March 13, 2019 - 8:48 am | Permalink

    Love the musical tributes, and poems and hymns…but today i am agonizing!! Was disappointed that John lost yesterday and that Chrysostom won before that…I’m not doing great this year in my choices. But i am being true to my beliefs, which is why Hannah vs. Richard is so darn tough!! Let me ponder further. I enjoy reading the comments so perhaps i shall be inspired!

  26. March 13, 2019 - 8:51 am | Permalink

    Why was Mother Hannah not included in the monastic quarter of the bracket?! Voting for her today, and sending all good blessings to SSJD.

  27. Lane Johnson's Gravatar Lane Johnson
    March 13, 2019 - 8:55 am | Permalink

    Richard Allen, “lesser known?” Not to us whose hearts are strangely warmed. Founder of the AME and a true hero of the faith.

  28. Jane Christmas's Gravatar Jane Christmas
    March 13, 2019 - 8:57 am | Permalink

    Hannah all the way! She had no desire to start a religious community, she just wanted to join one (in England). She tried to resist the entreaties of a pesky bunch of Toronto Anglicans to form the first Canadian-made community of sisters, but in the end, she decided the choice was God’s, not hers, and invoked the words of Mary: “Do whatever He asks of you.” Hannah bravely took the torch without any idea of what lay ahead of her. That takes guts, and faith.

  29. Emily's Gravatar Emily
    March 13, 2019 - 9:03 am | Permalink

    Voting for Richard Allen. Overcame so much as a former slave and gave hope and dignity to fellow African Americans in the Methodist tradition. The Methodists could use reminders of positive action just now.

    • Nancy's Gravatar Nancy
      March 13, 2019 - 9:44 am | Permalink

      Agreed! As a Methodist I concur.

  30. March 13, 2019 - 9:08 am | Permalink

    And let it be noted now, in case Hannah does not survive here for another day, that her community, SSJD, welcomed women of color as Sisters at a time when Religious communities in the USA would not do that.

    • March 13, 2019 - 9:11 am | Permalink

      That is history I was unaware of. Thank you.

    • Lois's Gravatar Lois
      March 13, 2019 - 10:01 am | Permalink

      Thank you for this additional information, Sister Mary Winifred. I was compelled to vote for Hannah, since I am a Canadian, born in Toronto.

  31. March 13, 2019 - 9:10 am | Permalink

    This is the kind of match-up that causes me to really examine my own biases, known and unknown, intentional and subconscious – Anglican v. non-Anglican, contemplative v. active (though Hannah was an active contemplative), monastic v. parochial, male v. female, and yes, person of color v. European ancestry. While I’ve voted, it’s something I will reflect on for the rest of the day, and I won’t be unhappy with either moving forward. They are both commemorated, so both have something to offer us and teach us! Most importantly, I hope I will learn from both of them.

    • Karen Sculley's Gravatar Karen Sculley
      March 13, 2019 - 9:33 am | Permalink

      Well said – may we each examine our hearts in like manner and reflect and learn from each of these precious saints!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 9:38 am | Permalink

      Dirk, I am enjoying your comments; they have given me something to ponder all day. Thank you!

    • Carol Buckalew's Gravatar Carol Buckalew
      March 13, 2019 - 11:07 am | Permalink

      Ahh, there is the real meaning in Lent Madness! I will follow your example and do the same.

    • Donna Devlin's Gravatar Donna Devlin
      March 13, 2019 - 2:00 pm | Permalink

      Hi Dirk.
      I’d planned on oting for Richard. I kew him. Hannah I didn’t but reading Hannah’s write-up I had no choice. I am blessed to work at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine soooo Hannah You Go Girl!

      • Donna Devlin's Gravatar Donna Devlin
        March 13, 2019 - 2:02 pm | Permalink

        This has been a tough day — I planned on VOTING for Richard. I KNEW him, etc.

    • March 13, 2019 - 4:06 pm | Permalink

      Hi, Dirk. I would argue that contemplative vs. active is a false dichotomy. I am learning that many if not most contemplatives by their seeing God in everyone and everything feel drawn to activism. Once you see God in your neighbor or in nature, you are pained by their pain or harmed by their harm and want to do all you can to help or change the situation.
      If you’re talking about desert monks or anchorite nuns, their activism may be limited, but modern contemplatives such as Thomas Merton and Thích Nhất Hạnh have done a lot to change the world.
      But I know what you mean.

      • March 14, 2019 - 8:45 am | Permalink

        Thank you for this, and I totally agree. I wrestled with that!

  32. St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
    March 13, 2019 - 9:11 am | Permalink

    I voted for Hannah. The idea of germinating and growing an order of women in Canada, a beautiful field of service, is too charming to resist. I cannot help but see that as a type of women’s empowerment, through organization and service. An Anglican house of women would be a powerful force for good. Hosannah Hannah.

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      March 13, 2019 - 9:36 am | Permalink

      I kept thinking of “Call the Midwife” and sure enough, the Community of St John the Divine in England is indeed the inspiration for the book and the series. The Sisterhood of St John the Divine in Canada “has been active in liturgical renewal and unequivocal in its acceptance of the Book of Alternative Services” (Wikipedia). I must go visit St John’s House in Victoria, BC. The women will be very distinctive; they wear bright blue habits!

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        March 13, 2019 - 9:42 am | Permalink

        I’m glad to know that habit is blue; it looked like Victorian funereal habiliment! Blue is much better, I think.

      • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
        March 13, 2019 - 10:25 am | Permalink

        If I’d known about “Call the Midwife” I definitely would have voted for Hannah. This is what comes of voting early, before the additional information starts to flow.

        • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
          March 13, 2019 - 11:17 am | Permalink

          But if you wait too late, then few people will come back to engage with your comments! 🙁

          • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
            March 13, 2019 - 12:32 pm | Permalink

            I’m thinking it’s well past time for the admins to generate Lent Madness 2.0 with more robust software. This old WordPress jalopy is definitely clanking and dripping oil and throwing rods right and left. The laity have been demanding “like” buttons for–like–forever. And we need textboxes that auto-populate (they did up until this year), and a system of alerts to know whom to respond to in order to stimulate discussion. Also what is this font size? 3? Is reading through the pious commentary to become a method of self-mortification during Lent? I’m agin’ it! I vote for a technological upgrade for next year. Perhaps dedicate all the proceeds of the Lentorium to an ad hoc committee with tech support to come up with a new and improved software package for next year. This is social media as it should be. When the saints come marching in, they need to find vibrant, user-friendly discussion threads!

          • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
            March 13, 2019 - 5:48 pm | Permalink

            Hear, hear, St Celia! Surely the great and powerful SEC can make these things happen! Whatever encourages conversation should be done!

          • John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
            March 13, 2019 - 7:18 pm | Permalink

            I must respectfully disagree with St Celia, Susan and others who advocate for “like” buttons, for the following reasons:

            First, what makes Lent Madness special (to me, anyway) is not the voting. It’s the heartfelt and often deeply personal discernment that takes place both before the voting starts, and when we (sometimes) choose to share that with others here.

            I believe that to add “like” buttons and other social media widgets would not add anything meaningful to our Lenten meditation as we engage in this discourse with each other; rather, it would act against such discourse, by removing an essential threshold of engagement: stating we like or dislike a comment.

            It takes no intellectual or spiritual effort to issue a quasi-anonymous “like”. It is, to be honest, a short cut, a desire to be part of a group. As such, it is contrary both to our chosen path as Christians (a stony path in this world of mental, physical and spiritual shortcuts), and to our personal walk through Lent.

            Likewise I see no added value in auto-populating fields, alert systems and other ways to “streamline” our participation. That’s not what Lent’s about! It’s about taking our time, thinking it through, learning from others and from ourselves.

            St Celia, I concur that the small font size is sometimes hard on my aging eyesight. On my Mac, I just zoom in on the page; I assume that’s possible on Windows as well. On phones and tablets, one can choose to increase text magnification; WordPress will respect that setting.

            One improvement I can join you in supporting, however: the “comments feed” link referenced at the beginning of each post’s comments section does not seem to work (at least for me). I believe it is meant to point to a chronological (rather that threaded) list of comments, making it easier to catch up with the last hour’s posts. For now, I just search for “3:” to find all posts made from 3:00 to 3:59 PM, etc. It works just as fast, to be honest — and it gives me the context as well.

            Please feel free to reply to me with your comments, suggestions, improvements, rebuttals, etc. Over the last week I have come to value your thoughts, as well as those of the other participants here. But please: no “likes”, dittos” “dislikes”, etc: they won’t tell me .

          • Donna Devlin's Gravatar Donna Devlin
            March 13, 2019 - 7:44 pm | Permalink

            Thank you so much for saying what I’ve thinking and trying to say in far less gracious terms. We do not need a “like” button. We do need thoughtful comments.

          • John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
            March 13, 2019 - 7:25 pm | Permalink

            For some reason, WordPress stripped out some key words from my comment above.

            The last part of the third paragraph should read “rather, it would act against such discourse, by removing an essential threshold of engagement: stating _why_ we like or dislike a comment.”

            The final paragraph should read:
            “Please feel free to reply to me with your comments, suggestions, improvements, rebuttals, etc. Over the last week I have come to value your thoughts, as well as those of the other participants here. But please: no “likes”, dittos” “dislikes”, etc: they won’t tell me _why_.”

          • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
            March 13, 2019 - 7:37 pm | Permalink

            John, I think you make a good point about the “like” button. I can live without that, and I can try your search strategy. I don’t mind spending time on LM at all, but there’s time and there’s TIME. I would truly like not to have to type in my name and email every time I comment on someone else’s comment. I really like to converse about things, but I wish I didn’t have to sift through all the comments from beginning to end to find new responses to my comments. Capiche? The comments section is far and away the best part of LM for me. I learn so much, and I love the community that is built–even if for a short time.

  33. Carolyn's Gravatar Carolyn
    March 13, 2019 - 9:12 am | Permalink

    Toughest choice yet for me, still will vote for Hannah as I was until now unaware of her brave choice.

  34. Sai's Gravatar Sai
    March 13, 2019 - 9:16 am | Permalink

    I guess it wouldn’t be Lent “Madness” if it were easy! Both Hannah and Richard are worthy of votes, but how do I decide to cast mine? Btw, the songs and poems are wonderful and put each candidates’ qualities/accomplishments in perspective. Thank you to all those creative writers (I especially love the show tunes!)
    Hannah and Richard took their ‘adversity’, Hannah’s being female with the loss of both infant and husband, and Richard’s being African American in the 18th century, and used that to energize them into performing good works for their faith. They BOTH are deserving to move on to the next level! Such a quandary!

  35. Melissa's Gravatar Melissa
    March 13, 2019 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    What a conundrum! Who to choose? I voted for Hannah because I also lost a child.

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      March 13, 2019 - 9:29 am | Permalink

      Very sorry for your loss.

  36. Susan Reeves's Gravatar Susan Reeves
    March 13, 2019 - 9:23 am | Permalink

    Hannah gets my vote today. She might have become victim to self pity given the loss of her child and her husband, but she chose a life of service to others and established a powerful network of devout people dedicated to training nurses, providing rehabilitative care, opening hospitals, providing education and shelter, and care for the elderly. A life of service to others gets Hannah my vote.

  37. Patricia Samuel's Gravatar Patricia Samuel
    March 13, 2019 - 9:33 am | Permalink

    It’s Hannah for me: prayer, education, including the latest medical diagnostic technology at the time (x-ray), expert care of the sick. She was a Strong Woman indeed, strong in her love of God and of neighbor, and of course, determined!

  38. Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
    March 13, 2019 - 9:34 am | Permalink

    Hannah founded a religious order, but Richard founded a whole church. An absurd (and maybe typically male) basis for a vote, but the alternative would have been a coin toss.

    • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
      March 13, 2019 - 9:40 am | Permalink


      After voting I looked at the current results and was surprised. Sarah doesn’t deserve to be down by so much. I’d reverse my vote if I could.

  39. Karen Sculley's Gravatar Karen Sculley
    March 13, 2019 - 9:36 am | Permalink

    Tough choice today – both inspiring saints – but I went with Hannah because she founded an order that cares for the elderly and provides shelter. Plus she overcame great grief (losing an only child and a husband) to do great good in the world for the glory of God.

  40. Wendy Saunders's Gravatar Wendy Saunders
    March 13, 2019 - 9:45 am | Permalink

    Hard choice, both such worthy candidates, but I had to go with Hannah. Fellow Canadian, plus a big fan of the SSJD!

  41. Candace Dials's Gravatar Candace Dials
    March 13, 2019 - 9:47 am | Permalink

    Most fitting that Anna Fitch Courie wrote about a nurse. Good job.

  42. Fiona's Gravatar Fiona
    March 13, 2019 - 9:48 am | Permalink

    Delighted to make the acquaintance of two inspiring saints. My vote goes to Richard Allen who knew great injustice yet strived for good, took great risks to help others, and for his great faithfulness.

  43. Lisa Keppeler's Gravatar Lisa Keppeler
    March 13, 2019 - 9:49 am | Permalink

    Here in the Diocese of Pennsylvania, I honor the witness and ministry of both Absalom Jones and his colleague Richard Allen; Richard gets my vote. But I also served in New York for several years, and must point out to Hannah’s biographer that even back in the 19th century, Peekskill, in Westchester County, where Hannah sojourned with the Community of St. Mary, was not in upstate New York! #AManhattanitesViewOfTheWorld

  44. Nancy's Gravatar Nancy
    March 13, 2019 - 9:50 am | Permalink

    Voted for Richard Allen, though Hannah was quite compelling. We are also enjoying the limericks, poems, musical takeoffs, and hymns along the way. They help lighten the load of choosing between two very worthy folks.

  45. robin tilgner's Gravatar robin tilgner
    March 13, 2019 - 9:51 am | Permalink

    A Canadian! Hurray for the SSJD – may their work long continue – prefer to vote for active service. Their retreats and spiritual development for women who are seeking, enhancing or developing their faith lives are well known in Canada – especially the Companions program. Such ongoing richness and vitality – a living faith!

  46. Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
    March 13, 2019 - 9:55 am | Permalink

    Here in the southern US, AME churches are scattered across fields and urban street corners throughout. I’m very impressed to have learned that Richard Allen is the reason! And even though I desperately wanted to be a nun as a child, and even though my heart goes out to Hannah for losing both her child and her husband, I’m voting for Richard for overcoming so many obstacles to start the AME.

    I was crushed to read that Allen’s plantation owner had a conversion experience to free his slaves, but only if they paid him for it. Nevertheless, Richard persisted. and housed a station on the Underground Railroad to boot!

    • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
      March 13, 2019 - 11:00 am | Permalink

      Not in any way to justify slavery, of course, but I imagine that many conscientious folk were trapped in the system — in the economy of the time and place they couldn’t afford not to own slaves, and then they couldn’t afford to free them. The practice of allowing slaves to buy their freedom over time, which would have entailed allowing them to earn and save money, seems to have been not uncommon and preferable to George Washington’s solution of freeing his slaves by his will and so kicking the can to the next generation. So I’m not without sympathy for Allen’s Delaware master, who likely suffered from the blindness that prevented most whites, South and North, from appreciating the true horror of the “peculiar institution” and the Jim Crow era that replaced it.

      I think of my Italian grandfather, who was in Mississippi during the Civil War and according to family tradition had a grocery business and owned a few slaves. With the Emancipation Proclamation and the fall of Vicksburg they were free to leave; “some did, and some didn’t” (to quote my father quoting his grandpappy at first or second hand) and continued to work for him for pay until 1868, when he pulled up stakes and went back to Genoa.

      Speaking of blindness, as a young man I received that information as a quaint family curiosity and am grateful to have lived long enough for my eyes to be opened enough to appreciate my and family’s complicity in our country’s original sin. Sadly, I don’t expect a complete cure in this world; but I pray that I may receive one in the next.

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        March 13, 2019 - 11:15 am | Permalink

        You make an interesting point, and I understand why they did it. But the plantation owner still would have been a lot better off having simply freed them, than the slaves who had to save their wages to buy their freedom, and then probably had nothing to start on… But, yes, we all have our blind spots, for certain.

        So happy to know about your family history. “Grandpappy” is a word I haven’t heard in a while. My mama talks about her “Pappy Todd” (really her “grandpappy”).

      • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
        March 13, 2019 - 12:46 pm | Permalink

        The US could have solved a lot of problems by giving the former slaves some variant of “40 acres and a mule” after the Civil War. Even small stakeholdings and assistance in finding their family members would have gone a long way toward preventing today’s strife over the very concept of “reparations.” But then Reconstruction would have needed to be much more robust and longer lasting. And we would have needed to invest in public education and (no “separate but equal”) a reformed legal and judicial system. It’s dismaying even shocking to see how entrenched racism is in our culture still. I’m afraid that the concept of “federalism” has become so perverted (by parasitical eponymous societies, say) that we will have to revisit the constitution itself or we’ll never cleanse ourselves of the nation’s original sin. Peculiar exceptionalism, indeed.

        • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
          March 13, 2019 - 3:38 pm | Permalink

          If only . . . and if only there were some easy way out of the morass.

  47. Tamara Lamb's Gravatar Tamara Lamb
    March 13, 2019 - 10:01 am | Permalink

    Proud to have been raised in the AME church. Team Allen Richard all the way. “God our Father, Christ our Redeemer, Holy Spirit our Comforter, Humankind our Family”. AME motto

  48. Janice Pauc's Gravatar Janice Pauc
    March 13, 2019 - 10:06 am | Permalink

    The songs have enhanced the site. Hannah for her rehab committment.

  49. Charles Stuart's Gravatar Charles Stuart
    March 13, 2019 - 10:08 am | Permalink

    Richard Allen’s story is certainly worthy of a vote, but as a patriotic Ontarian Anglican I have to cast mine for Hannah Grier Coome. As a sidebar, I must comment on how much I appreciate the many informative and insightful comments that are posted on Lent Madness. This is my first year as a Lent Madder, and I regret missing the previous nine.

  50. JOAN OGDEN's Gravatar JOAN OGDEN
    March 13, 2019 - 10:14 am | Permalink

    The Rev. Allen for me — what courage in the face of so much racism. And my vote is also in honor of the struggles facing the US Methodist Church today — may God’s love for all prevail.

  51. March 13, 2019 - 10:15 am | Permalink

    I voted for Mother Hannah, as the founder of the first religious order for women in North America that welcomed sisters of colour when they were not allowed to join any of the US communities.

  52. Catherine Fink's Gravatar Catherine Fink
    March 13, 2019 - 10:22 am | Permalink

    Where is Oliver?? Anyone know?
    I’m missing you!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 3:40 pm | Permalink

      And Pailet, seven years old and voting on the first day! Ou est Pailet?

  53. theodora a ashby's Gravatar theodora a ashby
    March 13, 2019 - 10:30 am | Permalink

    Richard Allen a true Hero for all times! He endured the degradation of slavery and than being Free endured the inequality in trying to have a life!
    Richard never gave up on his personal aspirations. Richard remained true and walked the talk of Jesus Christ. Amen

  54. Susan Martin's Gravatar Susan Martin
    March 13, 2019 - 10:36 am | Permalink

    This is a tough one, but as a Canadian I have to vote for Hannah!

  55. Jendi's Gravatar Jendi
    March 13, 2019 - 10:38 am | Permalink

    Scott and Tim, you must compile a Lent Madness hymnal from the best of the commenters — truly inspired this year.

  56. March 13, 2019 - 10:41 am | Permalink

    I voted for Hannah today. Love them both, but a good friend of mine is an Episcopal nun, and as the descendant of railroaders, I liked that connection as well.

  57. Mark Bigley's Gravatar Mark Bigley
    March 13, 2019 - 10:44 am | Permalink

    I like the way Allen maintained a spiritual path throughout the ordeals. Working on the Underground Railroad was far preferable to send freedmen to Canada because of the Black Codes of many Northern States that forbade free blacks to live there, than the violence which many abolishionists were advocating and some initiating in the South
    such as Lysander Spooner and others.

  58. Janene's Gravatar Janene
    March 13, 2019 - 10:52 am | Permalink

    First of all, I cannot believe James the Greater was defeated ! He always seemed to get a bad rap anyways.
    I am reading The Invention of Wings, a novel about slavery in the early 1800s.
    Such atrocities did occur to these poor black families, and one cannot even conceive of the mindset of slavery.
    I voted for Rev. Allen

  59. Maggie Cole's Gravatar Maggie Cole
    March 13, 2019 - 10:58 am | Permalink

    I Voted for Mother Hannah. She visited my mother on her death bed in September 1987. I put Hanna’s picture up at the foot of the bed and my mother’s eyes lit up. I know she came to take my mother to heaven.

  60. Mary MacConnel Ferry's Gravatar Mary MacConnel Ferry
    March 13, 2019 - 11:05 am | Permalink

    Having been schooled by the Sisters of St. Mary at St. Mary’s in Peekskill, New York, Hannah gets my vote.

  61. March 13, 2019 - 11:10 am | Permalink

    I’m touched by Mother Hannah’s story but am voting for Bishop Allen. God used him mightily both to preach his Word in the pastoral ministry and to fight for social justice.

  62. Canadian Pip's Gravatar Canadian Pip
    March 13, 2019 - 11:11 am | Permalink

    Hannah for me. When in Alberta in the late ’70’s I would go to the SSJD convent in Edmonton for Retreats where we would be joined by the Sisters’ 2 Standard Poodles as we prayed and meditated. Now living on Vancouver Island, BC I enjoy retreats etc. lead by the Sisters in Victoria. Sadly no poodles attending.

  63. Jane Bucci's Gravatar Jane Bucci
    March 13, 2019 - 11:11 am | Permalink

    I’m deeply respectful of Richard Allen’s journey but I’m a Canadian girl born in Toronto. Bravo Sister Elizabeth – even if Hannah doesn’t go forward – thank you!

  64. Janet Irvine's Gravatar Janet Irvine
    March 13, 2019 - 11:12 am | Permalink

    I must say the Sisters did a great job campaigning for Mother Coombs. I had an article about her almost every day for the last two weeks on my facebook page. Bravo, good Sisters. Keep the faith, dear Babes!

  65. March 13, 2019 - 11:17 am | Permalink

    A a nurse I have to vote for Hannah! I do admire and respect Alien but, without nurses healthcare would crumbles they are the first line of defense for patients!

  66. Candace's Gravatar Candace
    March 13, 2019 - 11:19 am | Permalink

    First time commenter.
    I have to vote for Mother Hannah because I know first hand of the wonderful work the SSJD continue to do to this day. From the prayers for my son’s best friend’s recovery from a catastrophic injury, and the comfort the Sisters gave me during those first few horrific days after the accident, to the nursing care given to so many, and to the peaceful and meditative retreats they offer for the healing of the soul, the Sisters give so much in terms of physical and spiritual healing. Thank you, Sisters, for all that you do. Thanks be to God.

  67. Greg's Gravatar Greg
    March 13, 2019 - 11:29 am | Permalink

    It took 220 years for St. George’s Methodist Episcopal Church to say they were sorry for segregation.

  68. James Lodwick's Gravatar James Lodwick
    March 13, 2019 - 11:31 am | Permalink

    Two wonderful saints whose lives continue to witness to the Gospel in our day.

    But may I point out the trivial but annoying grammatical error in the collect for Richard Allen? The peroration begins: “Loving God, who MAKES us all your children.” Since God is being addressed, the verb should be in the second person, i.e., “make” instead of the third person singular “makes.” If that sounds awkward in modern English, then rephrase the opening sentence of the prayer, please. Thank you.

    • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
      March 13, 2019 - 11:38 am | Permalink

      The solution adopted by the 1979 Prayer Book is “you make.”

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        March 13, 2019 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

        That makes much more sense–we are praying to God, after all. Still, I’ve never seen “God” as the antecedent for a plural pronoun. Maybe that’s right theologically, but not grammatically.

  69. Elaine's Gravatar Elaine
    March 13, 2019 - 11:34 am | Permalink

    I loved reading about Hannah and would likely have voted for her against many other saints. But being a Detroiter, where the AME Church is vital, I had to vote for Richard Allen. I’ve had a fondness for him for a long time, and loved when the USPS issued postage stamps in his honor a few years ago! (I can’t bring myself to use them up.)

    • March 13, 2019 - 2:17 pm | Permalink

      I have framed stamps occasionally in the past. You might consider doing this with one of yours.

  70. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    March 13, 2019 - 11:45 am | Permalink

    I really want to vote for both, unlike Monday where I voted based on who the last comment made at the time supported because I really didn’t want to vote for either.

    Sister Elizabeth tipped the scales for her Foundress with The Seven Joys of Mother Hannah.

  71. Rev Steph's Gravatar Rev Steph
    March 13, 2019 - 11:48 am | Permalink

    Being a Methodist clergy myself, my vote is for Richard!

  72. Anne E.B.'s Gravatar Anne E.B.
    March 13, 2019 - 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Cheers for Mother Hannah!

  73. LC's Gravatar LC
    March 13, 2019 - 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Hard to choose between these two. Chose Hannah.

  74. Wendi's Gravatar Wendi
    March 13, 2019 - 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Pitting two immensely worthy people from different oppressed groups against each other? I’m crying foul!

  75. Olga Joloud's Gravatar Olga Joloud
    March 13, 2019 - 12:21 pm | Permalink

    The sisterhood originated by Hannah is known for training nurses, providing rehabilitative care. This very close to my heart. Broken, sick mentally, emotionally people receive gods care through the work done by the sisterhood. God bless their work done on opening hospitals, providing education and shelter, elderly care in a many yeas to come.

  76. Joseph R. John's Gravatar Joseph R. John
    March 13, 2019 - 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Methinks the statisticians for LentMadness may have goofed: On the the page “Bracket 2019” in “Round of 32”, the following is listed: March 11th: John Chrysostom (47%) defeats Margaret of Cortona (47%)

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      March 13, 2019 - 12:37 pm | Permalink

      6% abstained in protest over the extreme asceticism modeled by these saints.

  77. Pamela Payne's Gravatar Pamela Payne
    March 13, 2019 - 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Boy, these matchups are not getting any easier! I admire Richard Allen and his congregants for their dedication and perseverance in the face of prejudice and segregation. Yet I am pulled to Mother Hannah, who suffered the loss of her child and het husband, yet turned her strength to God and to the service of God’s people. And she is a fellow nurse, so my vote goes to Mother Hannah today

  78. Randomdude101's Gravatar Randomdude101
    March 13, 2019 - 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Go Richard Allen! Avenge Richard Hooker’s loss last year!

  79. Mema Jen's Gravatar Mema Jen
    March 13, 2019 - 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Hannah gets my vote today – I identify with her being widowed at a relatively young age, yet she persevered and continued pursuing a life of faith and service in the name of Jesus. My kinda lady!

  80. carole, sjv's Gravatar carole, sjv
    March 13, 2019 - 1:09 pm | Permalink

    I appreciate and celebrate the comments about Mother Hannah. However, Rev. Allen, from former slave to Underground Railroad host and Founder of the AME, has my vote. Anyone who has fought against “America’s original sin” (J. Wallis).

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      March 13, 2019 - 2:24 pm | Permalink

      I wish you would explain the initials “sjv” again. I thought you said “jesuit volunteer,” but I do not know what the “s” is: “Society of Jesuit Volunteers”?

  81. Anita Martin's Gravatar Anita Martin
    March 13, 2019 - 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Minister Allen has it for the dedication to moving forward with worship for those who were marginalized by slavery. To guide those for their spiritual development. He received my vote.

  82. TJ's Gravatar TJ
    March 13, 2019 - 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Both have compelling stories, but I chose Richard Allen for his faithfulness and determination to serve God in spite of the ignorance and inhumanity of his fellow humans.

  83. Peggy Hans's Gravatar Peggy Hans
    March 13, 2019 - 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Lent Madness challenges my already indecisive nature every day. This is no exception. I vote for Richard Allen. Such inspiring saints. Are they really just “folk like me”?

  84. Karen's Gravatar Karen
    March 13, 2019 - 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know much about Hannah Coome
    Know less about Richard Allen
    But I do know God loves them both
    All halos should be tossed aside
    Both had compassion and cared for all
    There we find the eternal vote
    What a wonderful world God has made

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      March 13, 2019 - 3:44 pm | Permalink

      Thanks, Karen.

  85. John Miller's Gravatar John Miller
    March 13, 2019 - 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Allen’s persistence and courage has always been a beacon for me. Her could have become an angry man; instead he persisted and tended to the needs of his people.

    • Barbara A.K. Franklin's Gravatar Barbara A.K. Franklin
      March 13, 2019 - 2:55 pm | Permalink

      My sentiments exactly

  86. Evelyn Dean Casey's Gravatar Evelyn Dean Casey
    March 13, 2019 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    I will always vote for those born on October 28 !

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      March 13, 2019 - 3:33 pm | Permalink

      Scorpios are a tight-knit bunch.

  87. A Different Jennifer's Gravatar A Different Jennifer
    March 13, 2019 - 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Richard’s story is very worthy but voting for Hannah today in happy remembrance of the wonderful SSJD women I’ve met over the years.

  88. linda's Gravatar linda
    March 13, 2019 - 3:46 pm | Permalink

    where is OLIVER? is he ok? maybe he’s too cool for Lent Madness?

    • Peg S.'s Gravatar Peg S.
      March 13, 2019 - 11:21 pm | Permalink

      He’s still here.. There are just so many comments it takes a bit longer to find him. We’re an expanding community, in so many ways.

  89. Carol's Gravatar Carol
    March 13, 2019 - 3:47 pm | Permalink

    I am a Canadian nurse with great appreciation of the work of the SSJD. I guess I could not vote any other way!

  90. Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
    March 13, 2019 - 4:07 pm | Permalink

    I had never before heard of Mother Hannah and the SSJD. Thank you, Lent Madness!

  91. Ann's Gravatar Ann
    March 13, 2019 - 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Nurse to Nurse – Hannah Grier Coome!

  92. Sharon Deuchler's Gravatar Sharon Deuchler
    March 13, 2019 - 6:33 pm | Permalink

    It was too difficult to chose today. They are both wonderful in there own way.

  93. Judy Bye's Gravatar Judy Bye
    March 13, 2019 - 6:49 pm | Permalink

    I was born and raised a Methodist in Lewes, Delaware. Many people, places, jobs and spiritual experiences connect me to both Mother Hannah and Richard Allen. I was confirmed in the Episcopal Church in 1976 as an adult. I wrote them here and deleted them for I had sinned and name dropped. I voted for Richard Allen.

  94. Judy Bye's Gravatar Judy Bye
    March 13, 2019 - 6:52 pm | Permalink

    I need some buttons too. Like. Edit. Delete.

    • Donna Devlin's Gravatar Donna Devlin
      March 13, 2019 - 7:03 pm | Permalink

      I truly wish that the word “like” could e removed from the English language!

  95. Jane Morton's Gravatar Jane Morton
    March 13, 2019 - 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Have enjoyed the wonderful sisters for many years!
    Jane Morton Brandon, MB

  96. Elaine Chilcote's Gravatar Elaine Chilcote
    March 13, 2019 - 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Another hard choice, but it is so much better to agonize over which of two attractive saints I will vote for than the recent matchup in which only the dog appealed to me. I recently re-connected with an old friend who is the son of an AME minister and the grandson of an AME bishop, and I am impressed by Richard Allen. But somehow Mother Hannah is the one who speaks to me heart right now. Besides, I am happy to be able to vote for a Canadian! I’m an American who lived in Canada for 25 years. (We came back because our children live in the USA; people often wonder why anyone would do so.) I fervently pray that we never get “Like” buttons on Lent Madness.

  97. Judith Schellhammer's Gravatar Judith Schellhammer
    March 13, 2019 - 8:54 pm | Permalink

    This was a tough one for me. I really admire Richard Alan and his ministry yet I would like to be Hannah.

  98. Anne Lane's Gravatar Anne Lane
    March 13, 2019 - 9:12 pm | Permalink

    As a Canadian and a visitor to the wonderful SSJD in Toronto, my vote is for Hanna.

  99. Terrie Wallace's Gravatar Terrie Wallace
    March 13, 2019 - 9:21 pm | Permalink

    I was born, and raised Methodist then became Episcopal as an adult after college graduation. With that in mind in some ways was kind of torn but in the end my choice had to be Hannah. She was a nurse serving soldiers in the military, plus founded the SSJD which I thought was very admirable. Also, an aside- the marriage to civil engineer with the railroad was something I identified with a little in that I had an uncle who was an engineer for many years until his retirement for Union Pacific in its early years until the early 60’s. The same gentleman also helped in the building of Sun Valley ID ski resort which Union Pacific had large part in and helped build, and put in the first chair-lift on Bald Mountain, which is a very well-known peak at the resort. One very lucky aunt who had also had known many years of living in the caboose of the early steamers like many couples with the railroad did, got to take the first ride up it.

  100. Lucy Porter's Gravatar Lucy Porter
    March 13, 2019 - 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Richard Allen is an old friend of mine; I learned about him in seminary, and revere him as part of the Methodist story. I am and always will be United Methodist, and grieve the current disagreements and hurtful things being said and done. In retirement, my husband and I returned to the congregation that is our church home, Christ Church United Methodist at 60th St. and Park Avenue in New York City. This is a church with people from all over the world, with every imaginable opinion, but all are welcome and loved. Nobody is excluded. We will remain so, with God helping us.

  101. TJMannion's Gravatar TJMannion
    March 13, 2019 - 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Gotta vote for the nurse. Besides, who are we as Episcopalians doing, trying to vote for a Methodist? C’mon.

  102. Sunderland Em's Gravatar Sunderland Em
    March 14, 2019 - 12:05 am | Permalink

    Lent Madness: it can drive all denominations crazy with tough choices! (Go, SEC!)

    I did want to vote for Richard Allen, but Sister Hannah got my vote not just for the work she did, but in remembrance of the Roman Catholic sisters who schooled me for 12 years in Salem, MA and who also served in Canada. They are the Sisters of Ste Chrétienne, with missions to the Cree in Alberta, as well as missions in Rwanda, Democratic Republic of Congo, and Tanzania. In this country they are in New England and in Florida.
    I was blessed with a great education, and was delighted in more recent years when they accepted me with joy and understanding when I told them that I was now an Episcopalian.

  103. Darcy's Gravatar Darcy
    March 14, 2019 - 1:32 am | Permalink

    I admire his stamina. He never gave up and his life was not easy. God showed him what he designed for.

  104. Rachael Boles's Gravatar Rachael Boles
    March 14, 2019 - 2:49 pm | Permalink

    I support Mother Hannah whose gift of herself in the founding of an Anglican order of sisters has given the Anglican Church and Canada itself the gift of healing, education, and spiritual care up to this day. Like Hannah, I too am married to a civil engineer.

  105. Amy Kendall's Gravatar Amy Kendall
    March 18, 2019 - 11:59 pm | Permalink

    I forgot to vote last week, but after reading I definitely would have voted for Richard Allen. My hometown was a stop on the Underground Railroad and I did a lot of research about my town’s involvement and the people behind it. Richard is my kind of guy!

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