Ignatius of Loyola vs. Gobnait

Yesterday, in a hotly contested matchup, Pandita Ramabai made it past William Wilberforce 55% to 45% to claim the second spot in the Faithful Four. She joins Martha of Bethany and awaits two more companions as we move ever closer to awarding the coveted 2019 Golden Halo.

On tap today we have Ignatius of Loyola vs. Gobnait. To get to this point, Ignatius made it past Tikhon of Zadonsk and Marina the Monk, while Gobnait defeated and Hrotsvitha and Paula of Rome.

Also, in a move of largesse reminiscent of the recently defeated Nichols of Myra, the Supreme Executive Committee has devised a method for giving away (yes, for free!) the last three remaining France Perkins Golden Halo mugs. Rather than donating them to the Lent Museum, they will be given away at random to three lucky winners. Click here for details. And if you gave up Facebook for Lent or for Zuckerberg, add not being eligible to your list of crosses to bear. Alas, it’s Lent.

Ignatius of Loyola

Leo Tolstoy quite famously did not write in Anna Karenina that “tasteful saintly goods are all alike; every kitschy saintly good is kitschy in its own way.” But he should have – because it’s true. Year after year, Lent Madness digs for Saintly Kitsch, and you’d think, after ten years, we’d run out. You might begin to think that the jig is up, the game is run, the kitsch is kaput! Never fear, dear reader, never fear. When you have a saint as popular as Ignatius of Loyola, you’ll never be wanting for kitsch.

Perhaps you’ve seen the portraits of Ignatius from previous rounds and thought, “you know, he seems ok, but I don’t know I like the cut of his jib.” Well, for the low price of $9.00 on Etsy, you won’t have to look at Ignatius’ jib at all – because this Ignatius’ jib is covered with a BIG BUSHY BEARD! To be clear, while Ignatius did have a beard, and Ignatian spirituality does ask you what you desire, Ignatius is not Santa Claus. Sorry.

Maybe you’ve read Ignatius’ works, and know well that Ignatian spirituality centers in finding God in all things. But as you search for where God is moving in your life, you find yourself frustrated because you can’t peg down what Ignatius would think in a given situation. Oh, beloved, don’t worry. For a limited-time, you not only can peg Ignatius down, you can have Ignatius on a peg! ($25.91 on Etsy; void where prohibited; tax, title and license extra.)

 

If you’re trying to chase down Ignatius, then exercise is important. Physical exercise does the body good and leads to healthy living; the Spiritual Exercises of Saint Ignatius help us examine our desires, discern the movement of God in our lives, and find God in all things – giving us spiritual health. And thanks to the good folks at Zazzle, for $34.85, you can let folks know you’re working through the spiritual exercises as you do your physical exercise, with this snazzy “Exercising with Ignatius” tee-shirt.

 

The t-shirt shows our hero sitting happily with a cup of coffee. After all, if you’re going to find God in everyday life, you need to be sure to have your caffeine fix as you begin the day. Luckily, an Ignatius of Loyola knitted coffee cozy can keep your coffee hot and your hand cool! It’s only $16.95 on Etsy, and includes a quote Ignatius supposedly used with members of the Jesuit order – “Go forth and set the world on fire.” Just make sure your coffee isn’t fire-hot. That would be painful.

 

Ignatius sought to develop contemplatives in action – but even contemplatives in action need to rest. So as you wind down your day, pray your examen, and resolve to respond to God again tomorrow, you can nest your head one person’s paraphrase of Ignatius’ spirituality. Rest well. Tomorrow, there’s work to be done for the Greater Glory of God – AMDG!

-David Sibley

 

Gobnait

Saint Gobnait is one of the national saints of Ireland – her story is tied to the place where she waits for her resurrection. What a great reason to travel – a pilgrimage to picturesque Ballyvourney, in County Cork.

 

 

Once you’ve visited the church there you can continue with the other pilgrims to the ruins of Gobnait’s house, her gravesite, and pray for healing at Gobnait’s Well.

Or perhaps you are looking to get into the spirit of Gobnait a little more locally.

 

 

What better way to remember Gobnait than to make a home for her beloved bees! Remembering that saving the bees is saving God’s creation, why don’t we make more hives shaped like churches – reminders of the holy work of caring for creation.

If you provide a home for Gobnait’s bees, you will also want to provide them with food. As you plant you plant a bee-friendly garden, say prayers of intercession for those in need of healing and for our world.

Beeswax is often associated with Easter, as we light the new fire of the paschal candle. But with an artistic eye we could weave the wax form Gobnait’s bees into remembrances of every season, including Christmas.

Whether you make a pilgrimage to Ballyvourney, stay home and plant a bee garden, or fashion beautiful devotional art from beeswax, show your support for the Gobnait every day.

-David Hansen

Ignatius of Loyola vs. Gobnait

  • Gobnait (51%, 3,990 Votes)
  • Ignatius of Loyola (49%, 3,905 Votes)

Total Voters: 7,895

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123 Comments to "Ignatius of Loyola vs. Gobnait"

  1. John Cabot's Gravatar John Cabot
    April 11, 2019 - 8:00 am | Permalink

    His support for a strong education
    Helped establish his own reputation:
    With the Faith and the Mind
    Aiding our path to find,
    To Ignatius we give approbation.

  2. Michael Wachter's Gravatar Michael Wachter
    April 11, 2019 - 8:00 am | Permalink

    We finish off the Monastics and Martyrs quadrant with this musical theatre tribute to Ignatius of Loyola and Gobnait. What would be more fitting than this song sung to the tune of “What’s the Buzz?/Strange Thing Mystifying” from “Jesus Christ Superstar”:

    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius (Repeat 7 Xs)

    What do you want to know?
    Can I tell you ‘bout Ignatius?
    Or of Gobnait and her bees?
    Just reread the Saintly Scorecard;
    You’ll complete your vote with ease.

    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius
    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius
    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius (Bloggers give you Quotes and Quirks)
    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius (They can tell you ‘bout Saintly Kitsch)
    When do we hear about the Jesuits? (Give forecasts on how we’re voting)
    When do we hear about the Jesuits?
    When do we hear about the Jesuits?
    When do we hear about the Jesuits?

    That group started in France –
    Called Society of Jesus:
    Not confined by Abbey walls.
    Used Ignatian exercises
    So they can find God in all.

    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius (Repeat 3 Xs)
    Let me try protecting the town with bees. (Repeat 4 Xs)

    Gobnait, ooh that is good.
    When they tried to build a fortress,
    You collapsed it with your ball.
    Drew a line for their protection;
    Stopped the plague for one and all.

    What’s the buzz? Gobnait and Ignatius (Repeat 11 Xs)

    It seems to me a strange thing. Gobnait’s vision:
    She was just a child but knew to build
    In Ballyvourney, Cork.
    And now I understand her well heals pilgrims.
    They leave unused crutches at her grave
    To show their journey worked.
    She said that site would see her resurrection,
    So they build the convent there nestled in the trees.
    As Gobnait shields the town from all attackers,
    Employed her cunning and her wits – and swarms of killer bees.

    Iggy’s ideas brought suspicion.
    Both Spain and Rome’s Inquisitions.
    Radical thoughts stem from his faction:
    Contemplatives should be in action.
    This was his credo,
    Hear how the truth rings:
    “We should seek and serve
    our God in all things.”

    I’m amazed this quadrant’s through.
    They are the last monastics.
    One more week until we’re finished.
    The winner crowned with gold, not plastic.

    Now, you must vote: Gobnait or Iggy. (Repeat 3 Xs)
    Who wins the Halo? (Repeat 3 Xs)

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 9:04 am | Permalink

      Monastic/plastic? Bwahaha! I didn’t need YouTube for this one. Love me some “Superstar”–especially this time of year. Thanks, Michael!

    • Peggy's Gravatar Peggy
      April 11, 2019 - 10:02 am | Permalink

      This is one of my favorites! Great job.

    • Beth Parkhurst's Gravatar Beth Parkhurst
      April 11, 2019 - 11:14 am | Permalink

      Oh come on! What’s the buzz? You _know_ it’s Gobnait’s bees.

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        April 11, 2019 - 2:02 pm | Permalink

        Oh touché, Beth! How perfect is that!

      • Michael Wachter's Gravatar Michael Wachter
        April 11, 2019 - 2:45 pm | Permalink

        That was the theme, Beth. Kudos, honey.
        See what I did there…?

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      April 11, 2019 - 11:41 am | Permalink

      Brilliant! I’ll be singing this all day. (Wait a minute! That scans!)

      Thank you, Michael, for your lyrics.

    • Elizabeth's Gravatar Elizabeth
      April 11, 2019 - 1:36 pm | Permalink

      You have outdone yourself today, and that was a formidable task!

    • Donna Lindsey's Gravatar Donna Lindsey
      April 11, 2019 - 2:04 pm | Permalink

      WOW a winner for sure!

    • Cindy Page's Gravatar Cindy Page
      April 11, 2019 - 10:57 pm | Permalink

      Dear Michael,
      Do you do this for a LIVING? Because you SHOULD!!!
      Thank you. So fun.

  3. Loretta Ishida's Gravatar Loretta Ishida
    April 11, 2019 - 8:23 am | Permalink

    Had me with beeswax candle kitsch

  4. Robyn's Gravatar Robyn
    April 11, 2019 - 8:24 am | Permalink

    Ignatius all the way baby!! #MontserratJesuitRetreatCenterRocks

  5. Mary O'Donnell's Gravatar Mary O'Donnell
    April 11, 2019 - 8:37 am | Permalink

    Again a difficult decision. I would love to visit County Cork Ireland but for today I voted for Ignatius because I want to read Spiritual Exercises and because God is not confined to our church.

  6. Patrice's Gravatar Patrice
    April 11, 2019 - 8:40 am | Permalink

    It wasn’t mentioned in the post, but there’s a plentiful supply of lovely Gobnait charms, posters, tee shirts, and other kitsch on Etsy.
    I love David Sibley’s terrific promotion of Ignatius and his kitsch, but our bees need a holy advocate more than ever today, so I’m voting for Gobnait and planting a flower garden.

  7. Ruth Davis's Gravatar Ruth Davis
    April 11, 2019 - 8:45 am | Permalink

    Gobnait all the way. In these times, we need a saint for the natural world.

  8. Laura's Gravatar Laura
    April 11, 2019 - 8:45 am | Permalink

    So torn. Jesuit educated, 2 of 4 kids Jesuit educated, but recent Jesuit grad doing a year of service in Ireland. Going with Gobnait this morning since I just got to visit her in that amazing country.

    • Patricia White's Gravatar Patricia White
      April 11, 2019 - 4:48 pm | Permalink

      So close! I went with Gobnait. She had a love of bees. We need to support “bee-loud glades.”

  9. Diana's Gravatar Diana
    April 11, 2019 - 8:49 am | Permalink

    I have to go with Gobnait and her bees. We need her care for bees and other pollinators rather desperately today. While she is no doubt interceding for them and us, it would bee the height of ingratitude not to express our appreciation for that intercession and her witness all those centuries ago. Besides, that beehive church is one honey of a structure. Well, I’ve waxed on about this subject for long enough. GO GOBNAIT!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 2:04 pm | Permalink

      You are so wonderfully corny today, Diana!!

  10. DyLynn's Gravatar DyLynn
    April 11, 2019 - 8:49 am | Permalink

    Bee-cause of Gobnait.

  11. Isabel Stanley's Gravatar Isabel Stanley
    April 11, 2019 - 8:53 am | Permalink

    How do you pronounce Gobnait’s name? I presume it’s Gaelic.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 9:12 am | Permalink

      I found this; maybe Irish Gaelic is at least close, if not the same.
      “In Scottish Gaelic, the ‘ait’/’aid’ ending would be a very soft ‘nidge’ sound, almost ‘nishdt’. So it’s not harsh, really, though ‘Gob’/’Gov/Gonn’ is not perhaps the most pleasing. Gobnait= Gobvnisht/ Gonnishdt is not too bad.”
      Some respondents said “GUB-nicht,” or “GUB-nit.”

    • April 11, 2019 - 9:15 am | Permalink

      Gob-Nate. Yes, Gaelic.

    • Elizabeth's Gravatar Elizabeth
      April 11, 2019 - 1:41 pm | Permalink

      From babynamespedia.com: [ 2 . go-bnai(t), gob-na-it ] The baby girl name Gobnait is pronounced GAAB-NEYT †. Gobnait’s language of origin is Celtic and it is predominantly used in Irish. The name Gobnait means ‘little smith’. The name is of obscure origin; it could be from goba, alluding to Gobniu, the Celtic god of craftsmanship. It was later borne by the 6th-century Irish abbess and patron saint of Ballyvourney in Munster. The name is today still in use in west Munster. Gobnait is the feminine form of the Irish Goban. ….

      † English pronunciation for Gobnait: G as in “grin (G.R.IH.N)” ; AA as in “odd (AA.D)” ; B as in “be (B.IY)” ; N as in “knee (N.IY)” ; EY as in “ate (EY.T)” ; T as in “tee (T.IY)”

  12. Colleenrose's Gravatar Colleenrose
    April 11, 2019 - 8:58 am | Permalink

    That’s really a crocheted coffee cozy. But hey, coffee cozy ! I’m contemplating on my vote for Ignatius.

  13. Randall Warren's Gravatar Randall Warren
    April 11, 2019 - 9:00 am | Permalink

    Ignatius of Loyola vowed to exterminate all the Anglicans. It’s Gobnait for me!

    • Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
      April 11, 2019 - 9:54 am | Permalink

      Would you please direct me to documentation, preferably a primary source, that he “vowed to exterminate all Anglicans”? I know he was deeply concerned with sending missionaries to England because of what was, legitimately in his POV, heresy, but I’ve never heard that he wanted to kill people.

  14. Sai's Gravatar Sai
    April 11, 2019 - 9:12 am | Permalink

    Last year during Lent Madness, I became fascinated with St. Dymphna, an Irish saint. This year, another female Irish saint has caught my eye: St. Gobnait. I mean, the woman commanded bees, for heaven’s sake! How cool is that?
    I must admit, Harry Clarke’s drawing for the Saint Gobnait window in Honan Chapel, Cork, Ireland had an enormous impact on me. It’s utterly stunning!
    St. Ignatius has been praised and acknowledged for ages, plus there’s that whole anti-Semitism thing muddying his saintliness, so I’m in favor of honoring…and voting for… the Irish lass.

  15. Rebecca's Gravatar Rebecca
    April 11, 2019 - 9:19 am | Permalink

    Only a 10-vote spread! Come on – save the bees!!

    • Alethea Eason's Gravatar Alethea Eason
      April 11, 2019 - 5:43 pm | Permalink

      I just planted sage in my front yard and before I was done with the last plant, bees were showing up. Gobnait for sure.

  16. Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
    April 11, 2019 - 9:20 am | Permalink

    My vote goes to Gobnait. My heart hurts for what’s going on with the bee population right now. One of my favorite books as a child was The Witch Family, which featured a bee named Malachi, who was very wise and calming for the main character of the book. I now always wonder what calming advice the bees might be giving me.https://i.etsystatic.com/12005007/r/il/683af2/923552541/il_794xN.923552541_bgm7.jpg

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      April 11, 2019 - 11:04 am | Permalink

      You have an excellent heart, Ms Susan. May it long continue to warm the world.

      • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
        April 11, 2019 - 2:57 pm | Permalink

        Have you checked your spam folder recently?

        • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
          April 11, 2019 - 3:41 pm | Permalink

          why? . . .

          • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
            April 11, 2019 - 5:07 pm | Permalink

            To put it another way, have you had a recent message from a member of the SEC?

        • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
          April 11, 2019 - 7:33 pm | Permalink

          because I won the Frances Perkins mug or because I’m in BIG trouble . . . ? I’d better check. Oh no. I bet I’m in trouble. I shouldn’t have told Megan to have herself a “yellow fever.”

      • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
        April 11, 2019 - 8:19 pm | Permalink

        You make me blush, St C. Thank you.

  17. Miss Jan's Gravatar Miss Jan
    April 11, 2019 - 9:21 am | Permalink

    I want to vote for both.

    Sigh.

    The pillow at the end of the post for Ignatius of Loyola seems to be tipping me towards him.

    The words on it speak to me.

    Whatever you are doing, that which makes you feel most alive, that is where God is.

    If I only I could get paid to do that which makes me feel most alive.

  18. Nancy's Gravatar Nancy
    April 11, 2019 - 9:28 am | Permalink

    Going with Gobnait for the bees and the flowers.

  19. Shep's Gravatar Shep
    April 11, 2019 - 9:30 am | Permalink

    ✌✌✌ For iggi

  20. John Lewis's Gravatar John Lewis
    April 11, 2019 - 9:32 am | Permalink

    With bees in crisis around the world, and our ecosystems dependent on them for survival, I had no choice but to go with Gobnait. And yes, I was powerfully swayed by that beeswax Nativity scene!

  21. Elaine Hood Culver's Gravatar Elaine Hood Culver
    April 11, 2019 - 9:35 am | Permalink

    I want one of those “Exercising with Ignatius” t-shirts.

  22. Elaine Hood Culver's Gravatar Elaine Hood Culver
    April 11, 2019 - 9:40 am | Permalink

    I’m considering an Internet search for a bobblehead Ignatius. Several years ago a professor at Perkins had a bobblehead Jesus on his filing cabinet. Quite a few people, including but not limited to faculty, staff, and students, asked him to sell it to them or leave it to them in his will. Sadly for us, nothing could separate him from this icon. More proof that God has a sense of humor.

  23. Diana's Gravatar Diana
    April 11, 2019 - 9:40 am | Permalink

    Our bees are in trouble – it’s bad!
    Yet our Bee Patron Saint is most rad.
    Vote for Gobnait today,
    And for bees, with her, pray,
    That our world, once again, is plant clad.

    Besides, how can we vote for someone who hated Anglicans?

  24. Becky Smith's Gravatar Becky Smith
    April 11, 2019 - 9:45 am | Permalink

    I have three beekeeper friends. For them, I vote for Gobnait

  25. Ruth Douglas Miller's Gravatar Ruth Douglas Miller
    April 11, 2019 - 9:47 am | Permalink

    Not sure a vote for Abbess Gobnait is a vote for bees, though as God’s creatures, without free will to sin, they too wear haloes. Ignatius’s influence is the greater, so I go with him.

  26. Lucy Porter's Gravatar Lucy Porter
    April 11, 2019 - 9:50 am | Permalink

    Music,
    Prayer,
    Active listening,
    Writing,
    Photography,
    Designing,
    Cooking,
    Humor,
    All make me feel alive,
    All bring me into the presence of God.

  27. Anne E.B.'s Gravatar Anne E.B.
    April 11, 2019 - 9:54 am | Permalink

    Easy peasy. Gobnait for the Golden Halo!

  28. April 11, 2019 - 10:10 am | Permalink

    Hokey smoke! This is turning into a real battle. With upsets all over the place, can Gobnait take down Ignatz? Not in kitsch, that’s for sure! You did what you could, David Hansen, but let’s face it, when it comes to kitsch, St. Ignatius has it all over the Gob! I’m voting for the man! And I want that peg!!!! But I don’t want to spend $26 on it. So if you’re planning on a Christmas gift for me, you know what to get.

    • Jeaninejj's Gravatar Jeaninejj
      April 11, 2019 - 10:49 am | Permalink

      I just want to say thanks, Richard – I look forward to your posts every day. Wherever you are, I like to imagine going to the local coffee shop and seeing you walk in – wry grin and jaunty halo in place. Your comments always make me smile and often influence my vote. Ignatz! I have liked Gobnait (have even suggested that as a name for my coming grandchild – parents aren’t biting) – but am voting for Iggy. Thanks again for your presence every year in Lent Madness!

      • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
        April 11, 2019 - 10:55 am | Permalink

        I second that emotion. May you “get pegged,” Richard. (And $26 does seem like a lot for a peg.)

        • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
          April 11, 2019 - 11:03 am | Permalink

          (only in the nice way, she adds hastily, having just discovered from an internet search of urban slang that . . . never mind–and there’s no “edit” button)

        • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
          April 11, 2019 - 2:11 pm | Permalink

          Bwahahaha!!!

      • April 11, 2019 - 7:18 pm | Permalink

        I’m blushing. You’re too kind, Jeanine. Thank you. I love Lent madness, I learn so much and the commenters are so thoughtful. Too bad it’s almost over.

  29. April 11, 2019 - 10:17 am | Permalink

    Beautiful Gobnait art and jewelry:
    https://www.patriartsgallery.com/collections/gobnait-abigail-deborah – including a quote from John Chrysostom “The bee is more honored than other animals, not because she labors, but because she labors for others.”
    Voting for Gobnait whose name means “brings joy.”

    • Diane in Maine's Gravatar Diane in Maine
      April 11, 2019 - 11:08 am | Permalink

      Thank you for the link! Who wouldn’t want the Gobnait “Chubby Bee” Necklace? Bit pricey though. Patriartsgallery.com what a great discovery.

  30. April 11, 2019 - 10:24 am | Permalink

    Thank you, bloggers! This is great kitsch.

  31. Millie Ericson's Gravatar Millie Ericson
    April 11, 2019 - 10:27 am | Permalink

    I opened the link to read the kitschy offerings today, having already decided to vote for Gobnait of the Bees, partially because I’m in the process of planting a bee garden. However, the Ignatian kitsch got to me and won the day. Great job, David. I want one of those pegs! And I love the Daily Examen.

  32. Janet Irvine's Gravatar Janet Irvine
    April 11, 2019 - 10:30 am | Permalink

    I never heard of Gobnait before and I am a big fan of everything Irish and Celtic having my /Dna tested and finding I am 96% Irish and know all the words to Black Velvet Band. I did vote for Ignatius, however, but I must say that the writer of the Kitsch section for Gobnait did a phenomenal job finding and inventing stuff. Kudos!!

  33. Claire's Gravatar Claire
    April 11, 2019 - 10:35 am | Permalink

    To paraphrase the late-Mohamed Ali – “Gimme Ignatius, ’cause he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.”

  34. Carolyn's Gravatar Carolyn
    April 11, 2019 - 10:53 am | Permalink

    Gobnait was the last thought I had before sleep last night, bees and gardens and her quirky name in my head. That made my vote clear when she came up for today .Call me crazy if you will!

  35. St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
    April 11, 2019 - 10:54 am | Permalink

    My vote today is for David Sibley. Well done on the kitsch, my brother. Well done.

  36. Mama J's Gravatar Mama J
    April 11, 2019 - 11:03 am | Permalink

    Gobnait’s ‘stuff’ is honey sweet and gave me a chuckle but Ignatz kitsch made me laugh out loud. . . and you writers! Thank youfor sharing YOUR gifts with the rest of the Lent Madness community. How delightful and insightful!

  37. Mh's Gravatar Mh
    April 11, 2019 - 11:16 am | Permalink

    Because of the plight of bees in today’s world, my vote goes to Gobnait. As people are spraying their lawns in the spring to kill dandelions, they do not realize that dandelions are a main source of food for the bees before flowers start blooming. The spray kills the bees. Save the bees! And vote for Gobnait while you’re at it!!

    • Shelly's Gravatar Shelly
      April 11, 2019 - 5:21 pm | Permalink

      Thank you for making me feel good about the dandelions in my lawn!

      • April 11, 2019 - 7:21 pm | Permalink

        A lawn with dandelions is infinitely better and more beautiful than one without!

        • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
          April 11, 2019 - 8:36 pm | Permalink

          Dandelions and purple violets, with a little henbit thrown in for good measure!

  38. Beverley Anne Bryant's Gravatar Beverley Anne Bryant
    April 11, 2019 - 11:17 am | Permalink

    Have to vote for Gobnait with a beehive just newly established in an attempt to beat colony collapse this year. Maybe she will cause the deadly neonicotinoid pesticide to spill before it reaches the corn or whatever they put that stuff on, and our bees will make it through the season for a change. But I have to admit, her kitsch is pathetic!

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      April 11, 2019 - 11:23 am | Permalink

      “Pathetic,” from the Greek, means “filled with feeling.” So, yes. Nothing says “sweet” like a beeswax baby Jesus.

  39. Beth Parkhurst's Gravatar Beth Parkhurst
    April 11, 2019 - 11:18 am | Permalink

    Can’t I vote for both of them? I’m drawn to Gobnait because she’s Irish, but I’m drawn to Ignatius Loyola because I have a cousin who’s a Jesuit. And at 50%-50%, there’s no underdog to support.

  40. Cheryl's Gravatar Cheryl
    April 11, 2019 - 11:31 am | Permalink

    Bees!

    • Megan Castellan's Gravatar Megan Castellan
      April 11, 2019 - 12:27 pm | Permalink

      “They don’t let you have bees in here.”

      ^^^winner of Comment of the Day.

      • Mollie Douglas Turner's Gravatar Mollie Douglas Turner
        April 12, 2019 - 7:36 am | Permalink

        Totally with you, Megan!

  41. Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
    April 11, 2019 - 11:52 am | Permalink

    Along with many others, I wish I could have voted for both.
    Our church shares space with the Newman Center, currently shepherded by a couple of delightful Jesuits. (And that was great kitsch!)
    My husband and I visited Ireland a couple of years ago and the photo of Gobnait’s house/grave reminded me of some of the stone circles–thin places–we saw.
    So it’s Gobnait, for those places where we sense the Holy.

  42. Barbara Kurtz's Gravatar Barbara Kurtz
    April 11, 2019 - 11:57 am | Permalink

    Ooh!! It’s a really tight race, and I completely understand why. I wanted to bot for both of them. . Even though the coffee cozy almost drove me to vote for Gobnait, my loyalty to Ignatious won out in the end. But… someone should definitely make a classier coffee cozy to commemorate Ignatious of Loyola. This one is much to… kitschy.

  43. Shepherd Ellis's Gravatar Shepherd Ellis
    April 11, 2019 - 12:00 pm | Permalink

    I voted for Gobnaint. Ignatius and the Jesuits are instruments of God and have done god, but we can’t pretend missionaries and the Catholic Church have not caused immense harm in many cases.

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      April 11, 2019 - 12:09 pm | Permalink

      We are all trying to “do god.”

      • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
        April 11, 2019 - 3:02 pm | Permalink

        How often the typo outdoes the intention!

  44. Bea Fosmire's Gravatar Bea Fosmire
    April 11, 2019 - 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Gobnait’s bees are not always honey and sweetness. I carry a needle to prevent anaphylactic shock in case one gets too friendly. I voted for her anyway and hope if I ever get stung, she will remember I voted for her and intercede.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 10:06 pm | Permalink

      That’s hedging your bets for sure!

  45. Marian the Lutheran's Gravatar Marian the Lutheran
    April 11, 2019 - 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Gung by what Ignatius says, Whatever you are doing, that which makes you feel most alive, that is where God is, leads me to vote for Gobnait. Hmmm.

  46. hapax's Gravatar hapax
    April 11, 2019 - 12:31 pm | Permalink

    How can I resist a sobriquet like Gobnait?
    Who can vote against her killer bees?
    All are well beside the well of Deborah –
    Her Irish peace will bring me to my knees!

    But how then can I turn against Ignatius?
    He makes me think and sets my heart on fire!
    How can I ever choose?
    Yet one of them must lose…
    Whose words and deeds will holy lives inspire?
    I think I must be loyal to Loyala;
    credit his theolog’cal emulsifier!

    • Grace Kennedy's Gravatar Grace Kennedy
      April 11, 2019 - 1:21 pm | Permalink

      Nice!

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      April 11, 2019 - 1:31 pm | Permalink

      “I think I must be loyal to Loyala”—Brilliant!!
      This and “Gobnait and Ignatius” will be going through my head today.

  47. Donald Harting's Gravatar Donald Harting
    April 11, 2019 - 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Go Iggy!

  48. John Miller's Gravatar John Miller
    April 11, 2019 - 12:49 pm | Permalink

    The bees are in trouble, not of their own doing), because we have exploited them with pesticides, habitat destruction, etc. They need all the help we can give—sainthood of their patron should encourage us to honor Gobnait and in her name, petition the pesticide companies to also honor her by reducing or getting alternatives to their poisonous products.

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 10:10 pm | Permalink

      I recommend the group Beyond Pesticides.org. They have weekly missions involving emails to congresspersons, or commmittee chairs to advocate for some action to protect us from pesticides. It’s very easy to join and send the emails.

  49. Amy Cook's Gravatar Amy Cook
    April 11, 2019 - 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Even though I have been to Ireland and visited Gobnait’s well as well as the church in the photo, I had to vote for Ignatius. If this round is about kitsch then Ignatius has some great stuff! Truly a match up where I am happy with either winner.

  50. Bette's Gravatar Bette
    April 11, 2019 - 2:38 pm | Permalink

    This is a terrible choice for me. I love Ireland, bees, and Gobnaits story. However, my Grandpa’s nickname for me when I was a little girl was “Ignatz”. I never figured out why, especially after he told me about the great man, but admit to a personal bias for I of L to win the halo this year…

  51. Rosemarie Sulek's Gravatar Rosemarie Sulek
    April 11, 2019 - 2:54 pm | Permalink

    This was a difficult one for me. I love and admire them both .. that said, I secretly hope Ignatius pulls ahead!

  52. Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
    April 11, 2019 - 3:09 pm | Permalink

    I finally decided that the irony of Ignatius’s winning a largely Anglican halo would be too delicious to ignore. Take that, St. Iggy, you misguided, holy person!

  53. Diana's Gravatar Diana
    April 11, 2019 - 3:59 pm | Permalink

    How about Gobnait’s My Honey?

    • Diana's Gravatar Diana
      April 11, 2019 - 4:22 pm | Permalink

      Hmmm, not sure how that posted twice – perhaps it’s a sign that Gobnait should win. But I didn’t vote twice! I promise!

  54. Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
    April 11, 2019 - 4:09 pm | Permalink

    From Ignatius’ instructions to his people working amidst Protestants:
    “They should make efforts to make friends with the leaders of their opponents, as also with those who are most influential among the heretics … . They must try to bring them back from their error by sensitive skill and signs of love. … They should defend the Apostolic See and its authority, and attract people towards true obedience to it, in such a way as not to lose credibility, as ‘papists’, through ill-judged partisanship. On the contrary, their zeal in countering heresy must be of such a quality as to reveal love for the heretics themselves, and a compassionate desire for their salvation.”

    • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
      April 11, 2019 - 5:03 pm | Permalink

      “the heretics”; beginning to formulate a desire, out of ardent love and zeal, to smack Ignaz across the face should I chance upon him in heaven, just my little way of setting the world on fire

      • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
        April 11, 2019 - 5:16 pm | Permalink

        Ignaz and his ilk have never grasped the difference between heresy and schism. A smack could be the best way to go.

        • Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
          April 11, 2019 - 5:58 pm | Permalink

          Historical context, please! Nobody knew at the time that it was going to be a permanent schism.

          • Davis Dassori's Gravatar Davis Dassori
            April 11, 2019 - 11:49 pm | Permalink

            My point is that Anglicans are schismatics, not heretics. That was also the case in Ignatius’s day: perhaps even more so, as no additional articles of belief had been superimposed on the historical creeds. I believe that from the Orthodox point of view the Western Church, because of the addition of the “filioque” to the Nicene Creed, is both heretic and schismatic, but I’m quite out of my depth.

        • St Celia's Gravatar St Celia
          April 11, 2019 - 7:36 pm | Permalink

          I’ll do it for Santa.

      • Barbara MacRobie's Gravatar Barbara MacRobie
        April 11, 2019 - 5:17 pm | Permalink

        But from his POV, the Protestants *were* heretics. I like that he’s saying to try to change their ways with love instead of, you know, burn them at the stake.

        • Isabel Stanley's Gravatar Isabel Stanley
          April 11, 2019 - 5:44 pm | Permalink

          I think we can all agree that burning someone at the stake is a more serious offense than calling someone a heretic. However, words often have consequences, and words like “heretic” and “infidel” have an unfortunate history in Christianity and many other religions.

  55. andrea's Gravatar andrea
    April 11, 2019 - 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Gobnait! Bee-cause. Flowers have brought joy and healing into my life, so I also like the idea of a bee-friendly garden. Another reason I voted for Gobnait was to honor a friend of mine who visited Gobnait’s Well a few years ago.

  56. Irene's Gravatar Irene
    April 11, 2019 - 5:44 pm | Permalink

    St Ignatius had a greater impact on our world today.

  57. Fiona's Gravatar Fiona
    April 11, 2019 - 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Ignatius has the kitschiest kitsch. He gets my vote today.

  58. MARY's Gravatar MARY
    April 11, 2019 - 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Ignatius! Ignatius! Remember if you were a fan of the tv show, M*A*S*H*, Fr. Mulcahey quoted St. Ignatius of Loyola often. If St. Ignatius could get Fr. Mulcahy, Hawkeye, Frank, Hot Lips, and all the rest though the Korean War, he is your Saint!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 10:13 pm | Permalink

      Good point!

  59. Pamela Payne's Gravatar Pamela Payne
    April 11, 2019 - 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Great kitsch round for both of today’s saints. Well done, Celebrity Bloggers!

  60. kate's Gravatar kate
    April 11, 2019 - 8:18 pm | Permalink

    I’m predicting an all female final four. On the other hand, Gobnait vs. Mary of Bethany will be a tough one I think.

    • Verdery Kassebaum's Gravatar Verdery Kassebaum
      April 11, 2019 - 9:13 pm | Permalink

      kate,
      According to the bracket, it’s Martha of Bethany.
      Would that be easier?

  61. Liam Hill's Gravatar Liam Hill
    April 11, 2019 - 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Hello my name is Liam Hill. I’m 9 years old. Here’s what I have to say: on my paper I have this exact match up!

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 10:14 pm | Permalink

      Hello Liam!! Good luck!

  62. Yol's Gravatar Yol
    April 11, 2019 - 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Love Ireland, bees and flowers!! Go Gobnait!!

  63. Amy Kendall's Gravatar Amy Kendall
    April 11, 2019 - 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Go, Go, Gobnait!

  64. Sarah Johnson's Gravatar Sarah Johnson
    April 11, 2019 - 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Bzzt. After reading this story…yeah, gotta give Ignatius my vote.

    https://www.boston.com/news/world-news/2019/04/10/bees-eye

    • Susan Lee Hauser's Gravatar Susan Lee Hauser
      April 11, 2019 - 10:17 pm | Permalink

      That is horrific!! In only 24 hours? Saints preserve us!

  65. Judy Bye's Gravatar Judy Bye
    April 11, 2019 - 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Ignatius. I can’t believe “the church” isn’t matching up host families at the border. I can’t believe famine still exists or even that Puerto Rico is still in pathetic shape. I hope we can save the bees, I just don’t think Gobnait’s story will serve to built up the church to empower her to lead in saving our planet, to feed the hungry, or actually visit those in prison, or free the slaves of today.

  66. TJMannion's Gravatar TJMannion
    April 11, 2019 - 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Gotta save the bees!

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