Nino of Georgia vs. Joan of Arc

This matchup sounds like a Southern football rivalry… but it’s actually a global showdown: Orléans vs. Georgia. 🇫🇷🇬🇪

That’s right… Joan of Arc vs. Nino of Georgia.

Will Nino send Joan packing on a midnight train? 🚂

Or will the People’s Champion charge ahead with sword and shield? ⚔️

Two nations’ favorite daughters. Two fearless defenders of the faith. One coveted spot in the Elate Eight.

And waiting there? None other than Peter, who just edged out Thomas by two percent in an apostolic nail-biter.

Who advances? That part is up to you. Vote now.

Nino of Georgia

There’s no shame in admitting you hadn’t heard of Nino before this year’s Lent Madness. I mean, I hadn’t, but now I’m basically an expert, and I’m fully convinced that this is one of the most overlooked and under-celebrated holy women in history.

Everything about Nino’s story is larger than life. She was born in Cappadocia but was raised by nuns in Jerusalem and it was there, in childhood, that she fell in love with Jesus and religious life. Because she was a superstar, she was chosen to go to Rome. There, she made such a name for herself as an evangelist that the anti-Christian emperor pursued her until she was forced to flee to Armenia with a crew of 35 virgins (or so, some accounts say 37!). She baptized all the virgins herself.

In Armenia, another king wanted to get rid of her. (Imagine having one king try to get rid of you, let alone 2?!) And so she fled again and finally reached the land with which she would always be associated, the Kingdom of Iberia which is the modern-day country of Georgia.

If you try to google Nino, you might be confused, since the word is often associated with the child Jesus. The “Santo Nino” is revered by Filipino Catholics, an image of the baby with arms outstretched. But Saint Nino of Georgia’s name is more ancient than a romance language’s association with the child. Some research suggests a link to the Sumerian word "Nin," which means "Lady" or "Mistress." This root is found in the names of ancient deities like Inanna (Nin-ana), hinting at a "great mother" or divine teacher connection.

And Nino is certainly great. Once she reached Georgia, buoyed by a visitation from Mary the Godbearer, she converted hundreds of people to Christianity, until she finally reached the Queen Nana and her husband King Mirian, a third king who wanted nothing to do with her! But with this one, Nino’s religious power prevailed. Seeing his wife healed through the waters of baptism and her new Christian faith, he came to Nino and asked to be baptized.

Nino had fulfilled the mission from God she received at Mary’s visitation: convert the people of Iberia. To this day, she is the “Enlightener of Georgia,” and the Orthodox Church has given her the title “Equal to the Apostles.” But did you know that there is an Episcopal Church in Tbilisi, Georgia? And a Georgian Episcopal Mission in Brooklyn, New York, both indirect legacies of Nino’s influence on the Christian landscape in Georgia.

The best part about Nino, though, is that once she had converted an entire country (to-do list, done!), she retreated to the mountains and spent the rest of her life chilling with other nuns, her OG crew. Now that’s retirement!

Just before the turn of the 4th century, a young girl was born to a Greek-speaking Roman family in Cappadocia. The baby, Nino, would go on to receive the title “Equal to the Apostles” from the Orthodox Church for her role as the “Enlightener of Georgia” -- the woman who converted an entire country.

Nino had prominent parents in Roman society and so was raised by a nun in Jerusalem, immersed in the rhythms of early Roman Christianity. Perhaps because she showed promise as a future religious herself, the Patriarch of Jerusalem, who was also her uncle, helped her make her way to Rome. There she met and served the lady Hripsime, who had caught the eye of the Emperor Diocletian, a notoriously anti-Christian figure. To avoid his pursuit, with the help of Nino, Hripsime and her companions fled to Armenia. Along the way, Nino baptized the whole crew of women. These “35 virgins” went on to preach the word of God throughout Armenia.

They did not escape the notice of nobility in their new location, however, and soon King Tiridates III called for their beheading. Hripsime was martyred, but Nino made her way out and over to the Kingdom of Iberia, the modern-day country of Georgia.

There, she had her famous vision: Mary the Godbearer extending a cross of grapevines, with the instruction that Mary would be her shield in the work of converting the people there to the saving faith in Jesus. Nino received the grapevine cross and tied it with her own hair. Today, the “grapevine cross” is distinct for its drooping arms.

Nino traveled all over the Kingdom of Iberia converting people to Christianity. Eventually, she encountered Queen Nana, who had long suffered from debilitating illness. Nino healed her, and baptized her. Her husband, King Mirian, initially rejected his wife’s conversion, until his own miracle occurred. After being struck blind on an excursion, he prayed to the God of his wife and begged for healing. With his sight restored, he, too, was baptized, and became the first Christian King of Iberia, securing the role of Christianity in the kingdom. Nino, seeing that she had fulfilled the instructions from her vision, she retreated to the mountains, where she spent her remaining days living a monastic life.

Today, Nino is a Georgian national hero, whose faith laid the groundwork for the Georgian Orthodox Church. The name Nino is still to this day the most popular name for women in the country.

Julia Offinger

Joan of Arc

Let's get the wondrously ridiculous part out of the way up front: Joan of Arc is the only person in recorded history to be condemned and canonized by the same institution. The Catholic Church burned her as a heretic in 1431 and declared her a saint in 1920. Now, the Church did eventually come around…it just took 489 years.

In the meantime, she has accumulated a patronage list that covers a surprising amount of ground: France, obviously, but also soldiers, prisoners, and, perhaps most fittingly, people ridiculed for their piety. If you have ever been the person who said grace at a restaurant and caught a sideways look, she is apparently your girl.

Something her accusers probably wished they hadn't pressed her on: Joan never actually killed anyone in battle. She went into combat carrying her banner rather than a weapon quite deliberately. She refused to take a life. She was shot with an arrow between the neck and shoulder and still returned to the field to lead the final assault, all with a banner as her beacon. When asked whether she preferred her banner or her sword, she had an answer ready:

"Better — forty times better — my banner than my sword!"

Then there is the matter of that sword. Before her first campaign, Joan sent men to a church in Sainte-Catherine-de-Fierbois with instructions to dig behind the altar. Her voices had described it to her: ancient, rusted, marked with five crosses. To everyone’s great surprise, it was exactly where she said it would be. When the rust was cleaned away, the five crosses appeared. For the skeptics in the room, evidence suggests she had never been to that church.

Her trial transcripts are one of the great documents of the medieval period — and one of the more remarkable examples of a teenager refusing to be outmaneuvered by grown men, much less a room full of hostile clerics. When pressed with a question designed to trap her, she replied:

"Children say that people are hanged sometimes for speaking the truth."

And when she left her village for the first time to seek the king, she said not "I am not afraid" which is the version that gets stitched onto throw pillows. She said something with considerably more edge to it:

"I do not fear the soldiers, for my road is made open to me. It was for this that I was born!"

She was nineteen when she died. She never learned to read or write. Everything we know of her in her own voice comes from the transcript of a trial designed to destroy her. That her voice comes through so clearly anyway is, in its own way, a kind of miracle.

Samantha Smith

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  1. A whole country converted! And without resorting to a battlefield. In today's world I remain deeply uneasy with the imagery of warfare. Nino wins my vote.

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  2. "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword." Jesus' rebuke to Peter has to make all who profess to be Christian think very hard whether there really is such a thing as a just war. With Nino the question doesn't arise, so my vote goes to her, a true disciple and servant of God, rather than to a latter day terrorist.

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  3. Another squeaker - 50% each. All honor to Nino of Georgia, but my vote goes to Joan of Arc. In any competition between one who is a martyr and one who is not, my vote almost always goes to the martyr. No matter how devout and effective a saint may be, the martyr makes the ultimate sacrifice. Ora pro nobis.

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  4. Nino, because she was an apostle in a religion that spends too much time insisting that women can't be apostles. And because she doesn't have Hollywood glamour on her side.

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  5. Honestly a competition of girl power today!

    Great writing from both bloggers. While I would LOVE a TV series about Nino, my vote goes to Joan, for every bold, passionate teenage girl out there with a soul that cries out for the world to change.

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  6. What wonderful write-ups and comments today on these two inspiring women.

    Everything Madame Señora said 11:39am I am ditto. And someone mentioned Shaw's St Joan play -- I must give a shout out for Jean Anouilh's The Lark, which premiered in Paris in 1953. Anouilh's portrayal of Joan made her a hero to me when I first read the play -- lo these many decades ago -- and she is still a hero to me now. Anouilh makes human and real her being called by her saints, her desire to liberate France, her courage and integrity, and her abandonment and betrayal once she was captured and put on trial.

    In the earlier round, Joan got a lot of flak for being a military figure. But at the time, where she lived had been occupied and oppressed by English forces and the site of ongoing war back and forth of both sides for decades (100 Years War), and one can only assume that in all this it was the peasants who suffered the most from this ongoing stupid violence.

    So I see her as a liberator, as courageous, someone who proclaimed and remained faithful to truth even through betrayal and abandonment and to the bitter end. And just a teenager. Just a girl. An illiterate (but clearly super smart and super savvy) peasant girl.

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  7. Another day of tough competition and excellent essays by our Celebrity Bloggers. I am grateful to Lent Madness for introducing me to Nino, but I must champion Joan, my patron saint, in this match. At this time, the voting is essentially tied!

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  8. I can’t vote for someone whose sainthood is based on helping one group of Christians fight and overcome another group of Christians. Nino was peaceful and led people to Christ. Much more saintlike to my eyes.

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  9. When I logged on early this morning, Thomas had been announced as yesterday's winner by 1%. When I got back online this afternoon, today's post was edited to say it was Peter by 2%. Maybe it would be better to just report that it's "too early to call" until you've checked the count to your satisfactions?
    I went with Nino today, the mighty girl who led a band of preacher women, and not a battalion of warriors. Come, Prince of Peace.

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  10. Thin margin again today. Joan was faithful and impressive, her story is well known, and she may win today’s vote.

    I still vote for Nino, female apostle to Georgia. She narrowly escaped execution by two regimes for being female and having the nerve to practice active peace and healing, teaching and converting others to Christianity, rather than remaining quietly compliant within the abusive regimes of this world. (Not too surprising that we in western Christianity haven’t heard much about her, as she would probably be considered all kinds of “dangerous other” by some powerful classes through much of our ancient and recent history.)

    Nino continued in her calling in Georgia, through healing and teaching people of Christ (even those in power who initially opposed her work.) She stands as an example of the power of faith and of striving for healing and peace that our society - from often stressed-out everyday people like me to those in the highest seats of power - can learn much from. I am glad to find out more stories of Nino’s life of healing and witness.

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  11. Joan is in my personal litany of saints, but I'm voting for Nino today in honor of the small monastery of Georgian Orthodox nuns in Western Maryland, whose patron saint she is (under her anglicized name, St Nina's).

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  12. I have to agree that today's soldier is one who fought - and with banner only- for liberation. She grew up in the shadow of violence, much like Jesus did, and led her people to independence. I highly recommend the biography by Don Spoto, which doesn't dismiss her miracles but takes her at her word about her own experiences. And even more so, the Mark Twain version. Just her having inspired so much great writing is in itself worth celebrating. But it really is on behalf of liberation that I cast my vote for Joan today. Vive le France.

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    1. I loved the Mark Twain one so much, I was disappointed to learn that it was just really well-done fiction. But you might be pleased to know that there was an alleged descendant of one of St. Joan's brothers who was selected to play her for the Jehannine Festival in Orleans in 2022.

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  13. It was such a tough choice! I ultimately went with St.Nino because St.Joan of Arc is too widely known, but I lived in Poitiers for 6 months and have visited some of the buildings associated with her trial in that city, so I feel some loyalty to her.

  14. Just looked in to see how it’s going. There’s something odd going on with the recording of today’s results, totals and percentages. Have read comments on other days about similar issues.

    When I first looked in tonight, about 15 minutes before this comment, there were over 9000 votes in total. Nino was ahead by fewer than 20 votes. I read a few comments, then refreshed the page. Suddenly there were fewer than 9000 votes, and Joan was ahead by over 500 votes.

    Hoping the SEC and tech support are aware of and addressing any glitches or other issues. This can be distracting from trust of the process, and enjoyment in learning together for this community.